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Stripped, cavity searched and billed, lawsuit says
El Paso Times via Saratogian Nation-Times ^ | 12/19/13 | Aaron Bracamontes

Posted on 12/21/2013 12:48:39 AM PST by Slings and Arrows

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To: TigersEye

Sounds like a JBT wannabe.


61 posted on 12/21/2013 2:29:39 AM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

Nuttier than squirrel poop.


62 posted on 12/21/2013 2:30:13 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: BCW

I am going to jump in here.

My background is this: I am an American citizen born and bred.

I have read the Constitution. (You should try it sometime, it really isn’t so very long or complicated)

No agency, no cop, no border patrol, NOBODY has the right to stick their fingers inside anyone without a warrant or consent. Nor do they have a right to force them to take laxatives or undergo any “medical” procedure, including x rays and cavity searches without a warrant or consent. I am not so sure some of this stuff should be legal with a warrant for that matter but in this case there was none so that is a different discussion.

Pulling someone out of line at random does not give anyone the right to do these things.

Having your trained dog jump on someone does not give you the right to do these things.

This is WRONG. Plain and simple. It is a violation, an intrusion and it is a physical assault.

I do not choose to live in a totalitarian state just so I can have a little bit more “security”.

Every single time this crap happens there should be outcry, lawsuits and any other blow-back one can think up.

This can not be tolerated in what is supposed to be a free country.


63 posted on 12/21/2013 2:30:48 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: jocon307

“but we have to go by it for the sake of argument.”

No - I don’t. We still in the US and it’s a free country - and yes - drugs are destroying the US and yes, we still need to fight on multiple fronts - and yes, training and hiring qualified people will stop abuses...but we just don’t know the situation down there because NONE OF US were there!

This may be the first time she was stopped - it may be the 22nd time she was stopped - maybe they received intelligence - maybe her face or passport was in question...I get my passport swiped every time I enter the US from a foreign travel - and I go to some bad places - but never have I been taken to the side and examined - because I NEVER give a bogus story like she did...the “uncle” part is what is referred to as an indicator and can be used to further inquiry...I’ done talking about this — most people on here have no background in situations like these - I’m defending CBP’s actions - nor am I coming to the defense of this unknown woman called Jane Doe...the US News cannot be trusted nor can the ACLU and these article serve no purpose but to give a low amount of unchecked allegations and everyone wants to set them in stone as facts!


64 posted on 12/21/2013 2:31:52 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW
- but never have I been taken to the side and examined -

I was flying from CO to VT. So were several others. Entirely random.

65 posted on 12/21/2013 2:34:33 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: BCW

” most people on here have no background in situations like these “

You keep saying that, but won’t give us yours.

Besides, background does not matter.

Again, I refer you to the United States Constitution.


66 posted on 12/21/2013 2:35:14 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: TigersEye; eastforker

Given post #50, I wonder if he’s a JBT himself.


67 posted on 12/21/2013 2:35:28 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Nik Naym

YEah - that’s what she is alleging — CPB isn’t saying they did that...per the lawsuit - to see if that actually occurred...we don’t know - because NONE OF US WERE THERE!

Get it — ACLU files law suit CLAIMING this happened...and yes everyone on here AGREES totally the illegal aliens and illegal searches are - ILLEGAL and should not be done.

You are assuming that this event actually happened...that’s for the courts to decide...not us or this pathetic journalist who penned this article without getting statements from both sides and investigating it as it should be - dispelling criticism in the end.


68 posted on 12/21/2013 2:35:34 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: TigersEye

so now your an expert in Searches and Seizures...good — everyone, we have our first expert on the forum!


69 posted on 12/21/2013 2:36:45 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!


70 posted on 12/21/2013 2:36:49 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye
Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

...and warrantless searches.

71 posted on 12/21/2013 2:37:58 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: BCW
...we don’t know - because NONE OF US WERE THERE!

I wasn't at the Normandy landing either. I guess we can't be sure that the Allied troops ever landed there.

72 posted on 12/21/2013 2:38:17 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: BCW

so now your an expert in Searches and Seizures...good — everyone, we have our second expert on the forum!


73 posted on 12/21/2013 2:39:03 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Nik Naym

and I refer to experience Nik!

Unlike you and every other troll on here trying cases off of poorly written and barely investigated articles...anyone can say anything on here and claim to be something they are not...

I know what my background is and my WHOLE point is that this is an...and I will say it slow so you can read it...

THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL ARTICLE.....nothing more!


74 posted on 12/21/2013 2:39:22 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

As a matter of fact he did name names of the doctors at the hospital, also the last names of the BPC agents.


75 posted on 12/21/2013 2:39:34 AM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Slings and Arrows

And body cavities. Not a friend of Phil Robertson’s.


76 posted on 12/21/2013 2:39:58 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"forced her to undergo a brutal six-hour, full-body cavity search..."

Well they can't say these Nazi wannabes aren't thorough...

Humor aside WTF has happened to this country?

77 posted on 12/21/2013 2:39:59 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Nik Naym

Thank you.


78 posted on 12/21/2013 2:40:19 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: BCW

I know what my background is too.


79 posted on 12/21/2013 2:41:15 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

WOW! - - such strategy!

and like you just pointed out and making my case - thank you for doing so...Normandy was recorded after those that surived were INTERVIEWED and the facts established on what occurred and what didn’t - lessons learned and what mistakes were made...

So far in the case that we have been discussing — only ONE SIDE has spoken and it’s coming from the ACLU...

Your little comment aided my argument — how does that make you feel?


80 posted on 12/21/2013 2:41:53 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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