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Vanity: Did A&E break the Civil Rights Law?

Posted on 12/21/2013 5:41:13 AM PST by rlbedfor

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Title VII of the Act, codified as Subchapter VI of Chapter 21 of title 42 of the United States Code, prohibits discrimination by covered employers on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin (see 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2[40]).


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duckdynasty; homosexualagenda; philrobertson
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Being fired because you expressed your religious views seems like a no brainer.
1 posted on 12/21/2013 5:41:13 AM PST by rlbedfor
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I doubt that the DD folks are employees of A&E.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 5:43:00 AM PST by Paladin2
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Superseded by those lovely “hate crime” laws, of course. Just like the equal protection of the laws clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 5:43:38 AM PST by Olog-hai
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You forgot the new catch:

All animals are equal, But some are more equal than others........

4 posted on 12/21/2013 5:44:23 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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Would it apply? I am NOT standing up for a&e however, he was likely not an employee, but a contractor. if the contract had a clause that A&E used to suspend him or cancel the contract, i am not sure it’s illegal. (just stupid)


5 posted on 12/21/2013 5:44:24 AM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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If you’re still paying a cable TV or satellite bill you are not only approving of what A&E did, you’re subsidizing the salaries of those who did it.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 5:46:30 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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Especially when your contractual agreement defines your faith as a hands-off factor in the working relationship. Something I read here indicated that they agreed with A&E that production would not interfere with their family, faith or hunting.
7 posted on 12/21/2013 5:46:36 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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Good point. I suspect a contractor, but it seems one could not openly not hire women contractors because they are women.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 5:49:31 AM PST by rlbedfor
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No, Duck Dynasty stars are not employees. They are their own company.


9 posted on 12/21/2013 5:49:55 AM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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No. He wasn’t fired for expressing religious views, he was suspended for bringing bad press on his employer.


10 posted on 12/21/2013 5:50:20 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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By expressing his religious beliefs. Seems like a slippery slope to religious discrimination. He basically quoted Leviticus 18:22 and 23.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 5:52:35 AM PST by rlbedfor
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Doesn’t matter what he did to get the bad press, he brought bad press. It’s not discrimination at all, he’s getting the same punishment now he’d have gotten if he’d pulled a Charlie Sheen.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 5:54:16 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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Phil Robertson: White, Southern, Christian, Rich

Nope. He is not covered by The Civil Rights Act(s). All four of his descriptors exclude him.

13 posted on 12/21/2013 5:59:41 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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This from Henry Mark Holzer. The finest legal mind I know.

First Amendment or Free Market?

Just when I began to believe that many of the more prominent TV talking heads could not be more stupid, they did it again.

Regarding the current Duck flap (no pun intended).........

In a magazine interview, the Head Duck quoted scripture (in which he devoutly believes) on the subject of homosexuality. That was his right.

Many people were offended. That was their right.

They conveyed their displeasure to the Duck’s employer, A&E Network. That was their right.

The employer fired Mr. Duck because of what he said and/or because of the complaints. That was its right.

Why, Greta and Bill (and many others) was it the Network’s right? Because A&E is a private organization owned by private individuals.

That’s the free market. If I own a bowling alley and insist my employees have the image of a bowling pin tattooed on their foreheads, they can take it or leave it.

Similarly, if Mr. A&E doesn’t want his employees quoting scripture anywhere, disparaging homosexuals, or predicting the next Super Bowl’s winner, the employees can take it or leave.

This is the free market, whose unofficial slogan should be, but sadly isn’t, “take it or leave it.”

Thus, the Duck Episode has nothing—nothing!!—to do with the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United State of America. To remind Greta VanSusteren, Bill O’Reilly, and hosts of their colleague hosts, the First Amendment begins “Congress shall make no law . . . .” And even though judicial sleight-of-hand has made the First Amendment’s guarantees apply to the states, not yet in our statist-collectivist nation has that amendment been thought to assure that “A&E shall make no law . . . .”


14 posted on 12/21/2013 6:00:03 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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No. Civil Rights laws do not apply to Christians and Jews - apparently.


15 posted on 12/21/2013 6:03:39 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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But...is Phil an “employee?” Kinda like Rush is an “employee” if all those radio stations he is heard on?


16 posted on 12/21/2013 6:16:09 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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A “free market” is not an element of the constitution, any more than “separation of Church and State.” Like the latter, it’s an ideological construct. As to the right of A&E to dispute Robert’s interpretation of Scripture, it boils down to the terms of the contract. Since Robertson’s is not a professional actor like Sheen, the relationship is very different.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 6:20:02 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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With the fascination of the promotion of homosexuality by some in this nation, I wonder what would happen if straight college grads, who have difficulty getting jobs, decide to mention they are part of the lifestyle during interviews. They could claim they were denied a job based on that reference alone.


18 posted on 12/21/2013 6:23:10 AM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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Yeah, probably. But look at what a big favor A&E did for Obama. Nobody's talking about Obamacare, because we're all talking about this.

Call me a cynic...

19 posted on 12/21/2013 6:24:04 AM PST by Kenton
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Reality show stars are not employees. They’re contractors, not covered by any civil rights statute.


20 posted on 12/21/2013 6:26:14 AM PST by BCrago66
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