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Vanity: Did A&E break the Civil Rights Law?

Posted on 12/21/2013 5:41:13 AM PST by rlbedfor

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Title VII of the Act, codified as Subchapter VI of Chapter 21 of title 42 of the United States Code, prohibits discrimination by covered employers on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin (see 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2[40]).


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duckdynasty; homosexualagenda; philrobertson
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To: DJ Taylor

Agreed whole heartedly. And it is our 1st amendment right to chose to speak up about this event. The brass at A&E either has no guts or genuinely distains Christian sentiments. For the latter, it does not make sense, because Mr. Robertson’s Christian beliefs were known and integral to the show. So I have to conclude that A&E believed they will lose more then gain by keeping him on board. The punted.


21 posted on 12/21/2013 6:28:08 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: DJ Taylor

We’re not talking about the first amendment being violated, but the government’s own laws to prevent discrimination on the basis of one’s religion. EEOC

Whether they should have stuck their nose in defining discrimination is another matter entirely.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm


22 posted on 12/21/2013 6:29:25 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: DJ Taylor

Sorry, I misread your post.


23 posted on 12/21/2013 6:30:52 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

Deciding Who Is Covered
People who are not employed by the employer, such as independent contractors, are not covered by the anti-discrimination laws. Figuring out whether or not a person is an employee of an organization (as opposed to a contractor, for example) is complicated. If you aren’t sure whether a person covered, you should contact one of our field offices as soon as possible so we can make that decision.

http://www.eeoc.gov/employers/coverage.cfm


24 posted on 12/21/2013 6:32:23 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Lakeshark

“All animals are equal, But some are more equal than others........ “

Way to bust out some Orwell. Who knew he would be a prophet.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 6:33:21 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Paladin2

If A&E did not have the authority to suspend Robertson, he’d presumably just ignore it and keep shooting the show.

I’m sure the business relationship between the family and network is spelled out in their contract. So, here come the lawyers.


26 posted on 12/21/2013 6:36:00 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Suspended is not the same as fired. Ask lots of cops.


27 posted on 12/21/2013 6:44:24 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: rlbedfor
Don't know if they broke the law or not.
A & E needs to be broke. . . . along with the queers. . .
28 posted on 12/21/2013 6:44:32 AM PST by DeaconRed (FUBO & DUCK YOU TOO! ! ! !)
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To: goodnesswins

What the American people see playing out in this “Duck Dynasty “ flap has nothing to do with any current provision in our Constitution or Civil Rights laws. This incident is just more evidence that the wisdom our Founding Fathers wrote into our Constitution has, in 200 years, been subverted and their intended form Democracy, as laid out in our Constitution, has become the thing they feared most about a Democracy; it has become Mob Rule, and Phil Robertson has placed himself in opposition of this Mob.

The Democrat Party is now a coalition of Godless Communists, Socialists, pseudo-intellectual elitists, feminists, abortionists, Global Warming insisters , race-baiters, welfare parasites, sexual perverts, and other assorted criminals that comes close to making up the majority of the American population. This coalition may have little in common with one another but they support each other’s agenda, vote as a block and are powerful enough to twice elect one of their own as President of our country, so they certainly have enough power to not only tell A&E what they can, and cannot say and do, but as soon as Obama appoints another Supreme Court Justice, they’ll be able to tell each of us what we can, and cannot, say and do.


29 posted on 12/21/2013 6:45:14 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Paladin2

That’s quite true. But your initial point was that you weren’t sure Phil Robertson worked for Gay&E. Mine was that if there wasn’t such a relationship, any sanction couldn’t be effective.

FWIW, I don’t think the Robertsons would need to take legal action. Millions of Americans are saying exactly what they think about the network’s actions and it’s quite possible they may never fully recover from the damage they did.


30 posted on 12/21/2013 6:47:56 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: DJ Taylor
Would it have been A&E's right to fire him if he made pro homo statements?

Something tells me this is a one way street.

31 posted on 12/21/2013 6:52:02 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: DJ Taylor

That’s a pretty good summation: A & E was within their rights to do what they did. Furthermore, if somebody wants to form a pressure group to agitate against A & E (and now Cracker Barrel too) that is their right as well. We’re seeing plenty of that.


32 posted on 12/21/2013 6:56:34 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: rlbedfor

Depends on the wording of the contracts.


33 posted on 12/21/2013 6:56:53 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: goodnesswins

Yes. All those stations Rush is on have the ability to bail on Rush if he says stuff they don’t want on their airwaves. Now depending on the contracts they have with Rush they might not be able to suspend the show immediately, but at the very least the contracts have an expiration and they can opt not to renew.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 7:07:37 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: RobbyS

The free market might not be in the Constitution, but the Constitution does NOT govern private voluntary relationships. Notice the 1st only says Congress can’t do it:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

You, and your company, are under no compulsion when it comes to other people’s religion or speech. A&E isn’t disputing Robertson’s interpretation of anything, they are disassociating from the bad press he brought. For all intents and purposes Robertson IS a professional actor, he is on air talent paid to give them hours both for taping and for promotion and certainly has a “don’t do things that would limit the audience of the show or network” clause in his contract.


35 posted on 12/21/2013 7:14:29 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: All
“All animals are equal, But some are more equal than others........ “

Way to bust out some Orwell. Who knew he would be a prophet.

“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

36 posted on 12/21/2013 7:26:33 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: rlbedfor

Easy solution to get their attention: Block A&E from you TV. I just did that this morning. I can do without them. Then I called my cable people and told them the advertising that goes on A&E will not get to my house.


37 posted on 12/21/2013 7:28:48 AM PST by native texan (Texans should be independent thinkers)
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To: cableguymn
...he was likely not an employee, but a contractor...

Would that like contracting to have a wedding cake for a gay couple? If a business can be forced to do business based on "non-discrimination laws", then I fail to see how A & E is not guilty, guilty, guilty.

38 posted on 12/21/2013 7:30:19 AM PST by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rlbedfor

The Duck Dynasty name belongs to A&E

The Duck Commander name belongs to the Robertsons


39 posted on 12/21/2013 7:40:15 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: BCrago66
They’re contractors, not covered by any civil rights statute.

Neither are those wanting 'wedding' photography and cakes, but apparently business cannot discriminate based on religious belief of sexual bias. Soooo - what is good for the drake is good for the hen.

40 posted on 12/21/2013 8:26:17 AM PST by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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