Posted on 12/21/2013 6:35:03 PM PST by Innovative
The Russian president is positioning himself as the world's leading defender of traditional values.
Vladimir Putin is calling on the conservatives of the world to unite—behind him.
The Kremlin leader's full-throated defense of Russia's "traditional values" and his derision of the West's "genderless and infertile" liberalism in his annual state-of-the-nation address last week was just the latest example of Putin attempting to place himself at the vanguard of a new "Conservative International."
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If you really opposed war in Syria — I’ll believe you for the sake of argument — it wouldn’t make sense for you to diss Putin, because he’s the guy who stopped from happening. I can only surmise that you didn’t oppose it THAT much. Sorrry for my suspicions, but I have a hunch you oppose Putin precisely because he’s helping to deter the US from getting involved in more Middle East wars. Maybe I’m wrong about your real position, but a person can make inferences, it’s a free country after all.
You got me Sherlock.
In desperate times people turn to leaders.
Please people, lets get something straight. Putin was the head of the KGB. In the end, no matter what he says, he is not our friend. Let’s also keep in mind that for 70 years the official state religion of Russia was atheism. This guy is not the defender of the faith. He is a master of positioning himself. That is all.
While we may agree with him on his traditional values preaching and against gay marriage. We certainly disagree with his oppressing any peoples rights or persecuting them such as gays. The only thing I will compliment Putin on is that he is more of a man than our metrosexual President. Sad day indeed....
He is not a “conservative” by our standards
“Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue.”
- Francois de La Rochefoucauld
What’s better, a leader who publicly and privately embraces vice or a leader who espouses virtue but has vice in his private life, aka a hypocrite? American leaders, especially Democrats, practice the former, while Putin apparently lives the latter.
Culturally speaking, the civil society is hurt far, far more by leaders who encourage vice. Society can survive a few elites who live lives of debauchery, but we cannot thrive when debauchery becomes mainstream. So I’d argue Putin is a better leader even if he’s a hypocrite.
Granted. It would be best if we had virtuous leaders, but I’d settle for leaders who at least pay homage to morality in public rather than Democrats who encourage envy, greed, and lust as a means to their own power.
“So I’d argue Putin is a better leader even if he’s a hypocrite.”
You shouldn’t, since Putin is an enemy of our country and would rather see us all enslaved. He is just trying to get on our goodside so that, if a conservative President comes to power, we’ll look the other way as he continues to develop his nuclear forces for a potential conflict with us. Meanwhile, people are still being murdered, and his people suffer.
Which is exactly why the Atlantic is trying to associate him with conservatives.
I think you’re oversimplifying things. Someone can be against current US policy without being our enemy. I don’t like nearly everything our dear president has done, and I don’t think our dear president’s policies are good for the nation either. Does that make me an enemy, too?
I think Putin has offered some pretty good advice on several issues. Do I think he’s a good guy? No. But I think you’re stretching if you claim Putin wants to see America destroyed and Americans enslaved. Frankly, we’re doing pretty good in that regard without Vlad’s help.
Putin is trying to save his country.
Obama, Rats and many Republicans are destroying theirs. What they have done is infinitely more destructive than all of the “bad things” Putin has ever done.
He was never the head of the KGB. He was an officer.
Bush #1 was head of the CIA.
“But I think you’re stretching if you claim Putin wants to see America destroyed and Americans enslaved.”
Then you don’t know Putin very well. He’s still wishing for the good old days of Stalin. Religion to him is just a political tool, and the Russian Orthodox church has long been infiltrated and controlled by the KGB.
This is an example of naively accepting Russkie disinformation at face value. They’ve gotten you to think of Russia as no longer a threat.
and the simple answer is NO and HE$% NO… This murdering bastard is no conservative and I won’t follow him anywhere
If Putin is an enemy of this country, why has he taken the right side on several international issues? Syria is one example. If Putin wanted to weaken us, wouldn’t it have been better for him to get us embroiled in the Syrian civil war?
I just don’t think it’s as simple as it once was during the Cold War era. I could be wrong, but you’ll have to offer more proof of Putin’s ill will toward Americans than simply claiming he’s out to see us enslaved.
“If Putin is an enemy of this country, why has he taken the right side on several international issues? Syria is one example.”
Syria is a proxy and client state of Russia. They buy their weapons, have a Russian base, and follow the dictates of Moscow. Little known fact, but the middle eastern conflict is largely the work of Russia itself. Arafat was working with the KGB, as were many terrorists around the world. Hence why the dissidents in Iran were shouting not just death to Ahmadinejad, but “Death to Russia!” as well.
“I just don’t think it’s as simple as it once was during the Cold War era.”
It’s as simple as it was during the cold war era. I recommend you involve yourself in the writings of the various KGB or other dissidents/defectors who have come over to us from Moscow. The Perestroika did not result in any communsits being brought to justice. They just rebranded themselves as capitalists and democrats, but are neither.
Compare Putin to our dear leader, President Obama. Putin advances Russian interests first and he at least pays tribute to morality in public. I’m not saying he’s a better person, a great guy, but I think he’s a much more effective leader than Obama. Frankly, we’re being led by an inexperienced clown. What’s so wrong about admiring certain aspects of Putin’s leadership? President Obama is a lesser order tyrant, too, except he doesn’t have any of Putin’s redeeming qualities. President Obama is literally destroying this nation on both the domestic and international level.
Who needs deductions at that rate?
Joking aside, he's responsible for the deaths of a lot of innocent people, so one could start with that. Look around the world, where there's instability either Putin's Russia or Iran is behind it.
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