Posted on 12/22/2013 6:29:35 AM PST by Moseley
It's time we accept the GOP is just as in favor of big oppressive government as is the left. In fact they are one in the same. Their only interest is to perpetuate the illusion that they oppose the socialist agenda when if fact they are all for it.
Romney was going to win because conservatives had nowhere else to go - but they found a place to go: instead of going to the polls they went to their living rooms and had coffee.
Our country if fatally wounded if we don’t kick the D’s out and stop Obama Care now. Period.
Anyone who doesn’t vote because A: they’re not CONVINCED the R’s will end Obama Care, or B: because of any other issue, including amnesty, is guaranteeing the end of the Republic.
If the R’s go bonkers stupid on amnesty, which is possible but I still don’t think will happen, that’s a hill for another day….because no such law will destroy us as quickly as Obama Care will at this point.
As for whether the R’s will end Obama CAre? Well, it depends on who is in charge and how big the majorities are and how many are tea party R’s…..but one thing for damned sure…the D’s will NEVER EVER END Obama Care…..PERIOD. Sometimes choices suck, but they remain anyway. Let’s win some doggoned primaries…..
When Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Lee, Joe Wilson, Trey Gowdy, etc, shed their “R” label, you have a point. Until then, you are just ranting and insulting the good guys.
Gee, there are some really bad Republicans. Really? Newsflash? Duh.
No wonder Reid congratulates his “good friend” John “Benedict Arnold” Boehner. He’s the Democrats best friend as he antagonizes the same conservative voters who refused to vote in last year’s election because they objected to the GOPe choice of Romney.
Conservatives don’t have to “go” anywhere. They can stay home.
The two options are not mutually exclusive……something I think the person pushing this idea would agree with me on…..
Romney would have been so much worse than Obama.
Yep, and wait for Obama to come get your guns, assign you your death panel, take your gold, your money, and all your liberties…..but hey, you’ll be at your home.
Of course, you won’t own it anymore, but you’ll be home……brilliant.
I know you feel better and self righteous for posting that, but I highly doubt you can back it up.
Of course it does. Legalizing the status of 11 to 20 million lawbreakers who will be given work permits and the ability to sponsor tens of millions of their family members thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen.
And exactly how will these newly legalized lawbreakers obtain health care? How many will qualify for Medicaid? Will they be allowed to use the Obamacare exchanges and receive government subsidies?
The Democrats will take the first hit, the GOP elites the next one.
If the GOP passes an amnesty, I will not vote ever again for the GOP. It will be time for a third party. Rep turnout for 2014 will be depressed by the passage of an amnesty. It will throw the Dems a life preserver.
It isn't like the Democrats are on the right side of amnesty either.
The Dems benefit politically from amnesty and immigration in general. Immigrants vote two to one for the Dems, which will make the Dems the permanent majority party if they are not already when it comes to Presidential elections. When you bring in 1.2 million permanent legal immigrants every year, 87% of whom are minorities and are mostly poor and uneducated, it does and will have electoral consequences. In 1970 one in 21 residents of this country were foreign-born; today it is one in 8 the highest it has been in over 90 years. In a decade it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history.
We have to be careful here.
The Bush bots will be attacking us soon.
Henry Ford said, “whether you think you can or you cannot, you’re right.” I see so much corrosive negative attitude on this website that it is depressing. If people find things so untenable, let them get their hat and coat and go out and do something about it. All of those anonymous key strokes don’t do anything except reinforce others who also harbor negative attitudes.
>>Don’t rule out voter fraud, the democrat way.<<
We all know it's true, and to what magnitude is left to the imagination.
The other day I was listening to a radio report regarding voter fraud in Ohio. The attorney general has determined that there were (get this) 17 illegal votes in the state during the 2012 general election. S-e-v-e-n-t-e-e-n! I laughed out loud! With Ohio's "election day" now a month long, and story after story about busloads of people being shuttled to various county board of elections, they come up with a staggering 17 bad votes.
Sigh.
If the GOP passes an amnesty bill, it will not be the same as 2010. Boehner's attacks on the Tea Party and the passage of an amnesty will depress significantly GOP turnout. There will also be more rancorous GOP primaries that will divide the base and depress turnout. You cannot paper over these differences.
And the recent Ryan-Murray budget deal just highlights how ineffectual the GOP has been in using its leverage in the House. A clean CR would have been much better than suspending the impact of the sequester and increasing spending and taxes. Increase spending now with the promise of miniscule cuts in the future.
Ok, I “get it” that Boehner, McCain, and the rest of their ilk are RINOS who sell us out and whimp out constantly to the Dems.
I want them removed from influence/office as well, but doesn’t there need to be a better strategy than just, “Well, I’m not going to be a part of supporting these RINOs so I will just stay at home and not vote, or, vote for a Dem so the destruction happens more quickly.”
Isn’t that strategy what got us Obama in the first place??
Isn’t it better to win one war at a time? We are in a two-front war against a Roaring Lion, and a “yapping Jackal”. And, since we are in a two-front fight, is it not possible to do a holding action on one front while taking out the immediate threat on the other?
It’s not easy, but where is the intelligence of allowing the immediate threat the chance to destroy you now because you want to “teach the RINOS a lesson”?
I know I will hear, “the RINOs ARE the greater threat”. But, I don’t think so. Yes, they are definitely part of the big problem, but when your back is against the wall - which is where we’ve been these last 5 and a half years - you have to take out the Lion that’s right in your face (or donkey) first, then go full bore after the jackels - right?
Fight and win where you can, hold the line where you can, attack where you can, but never, never surrender! Incrementalism got us here, incrementalism can take us out of it. The Dems have done that for 60 years.
Surrendering to “prove a point” does not seem like a winning strategy to me.
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Holding your nose and voting for the GOPe will not change our current course of unsustainable spending and the expansion of the welfare state. The political class has become disconnected from the people. The GOP and the Dems are just different wings of the same Big Government party.
The time has come to draw a line in the sand and take a different path for the long term salvation of this country.
How’s this for negativity:
“It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”-Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do ‘Til the Revolution (1996)
Except…
In the case of John Boehner.
It is VITAL that he be removed from office, so that his would-be followers are put on notice. Pour encourager les autres, as the French say.
If I lived in Boehner's district, and if he wins renomination, I would vote for the Democrat.
McConnell is a harder problem, because it's six years.
“No monument has ever been erected to a pessimist.” Billhilly and others
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