Posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai
Israeli officials reacted with bitter scorn to a Christmas message from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in which he called Jesus a Palestinian and suggested Israel was to blame for the exodus of Christians from the Holy Land.
“He should have read the Gospel before uttering such offensive nonsense, but we will forgive him because he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel on Monday. Abbas’s statement is an “outrageous rewriting of Christian history,” according to Palmor.
Earlier on Monday, Abbas published a lengthy Christmas greeting, calling Jesus “a Palestinian messenger who would become a guiding light for millions around the world.” Although he expressed his commitment to the peace negotiations with Israel, he expressed harsh criticism of Israeli policies, including an accusation that Jerusalem is responsible for the plight of Christians in the Holy Land. …
(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...
Well, the Koran speaks against anyone who calls Jesus the son of God, even claiming that Jesus is going to appear on the last day and deny that he’s the son of God in several versus. The Koran denies Jesus’ crucifixion (claiming that it was an illusion or hologram or something to make it look like he was crucified), instead saying that he was caught up alive to “Allah” in heaven. As long as they believe that, they will come up with all sorts of stuff to justify the Koranic viewpoint.
Now Jesus as the creator of all mankind means that all mankind can trace themselves back to Him. The notion of being Savior has to do with His shed blood paying for the sins of all mankind. But as for the various generations of mankind, prophecy does say that He would be born of the house of David, of the tribe of Judah, and of no other family.
Fifth century BCE. Herodotus.
And the Israeli says, “should have read the Gospel”. Uh...you mean the Good News of the saving grace of Jesus Christ? I pray he will follow his own advice.
You’re killed for switching to worship Him, but He was one of us.
This is how they get all the stupid people on their side.
As an aside, one of my favorite girlfriends from college was a beautiful Jewish girl with bright red hair and bountiful freckles.
Her entire family was red-headed.
” So, Cleopatra was quite possibly AfroGreek.”
The Macedonians in Alexandria were notoriously inbred; they wouldn’t even marry Greeks. They were the ruling social strata and wouldn’t compromise their status. It wasn’t until Julius Caesar pressured them that Macedonians started to mix with Greeks.
Cleo, of the royal line, would have been pure Macedonian.
“Jesus’s ethnicity? The opinions are all over the place.”
His ancestors are all Jews, as listed in his genealogy, which is available.
“Others say he was born in Bethlehem, which makes his ethnicity the ancestors of Palestinians.”
Bethlehem was the city of David, king of the Jews (whose title Jesus also inherited as his descendant). If he was a Bethlehemite, then he was a Jew.
Prior to 1948, the Jews and Arabs of the land were called PALESTINIANS ... all of them. They were either Palestinian Arabs or they were Palestinian Jews.
After 1948, the term was abandoned for the Jews and they were simply Israelis. The named remained for the “Palestinian Arabs” though, while the Arab part was dropped — because it became redundant without the term “Palestinian Jew”.
AND THUS ... today we have what remains of that original terminology from history — PALESTINIANS.
ALSO ... please note that the STATE OF ISRAEL officially recognizes these people as “Palestinians”. This is stated in official documents and treaties with Israel. And, when you listen to even the Prime Minister of Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu), he refers to them — ALL THE TIME — as Palestinians.
I think if the State of Israel and the Prime Minister of Israel has no problem in referring to them OFFICIALLY that way, then we shouldn’t either.
The truth of the history remains the same no matter the name you use.
OH ... and one more thing the Jerusalem Post was ORIGINALLY called the “Palestinian Post”. The news of the new state of Israel was printed up in the Palestinian Post.
Despite the proclamations of anti-Israel activists and anti-Semites the truth of the matter is that there has never been a country called ‘Palestine’, nor has there ever been a people called ‘Palestinians’. The entire myth of a Palestinian nation-hood was foisted by the PLO terrorist organization. Many of these ruthless terrorists were honest about this lie admitting that they created this ‘people’ for the express purpose of driving the Jews in the Holy Land into the sea. Yassar Arafat {Yemach Shemo Vezichron/May his name and memory be erased!} was a chief architect of the ‘Palestinian’ lies.
Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.
There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.
The arabs complain about Nakba, their disaster, but how about the Catastrophe that the arabs inflicted on their Jewish populations in 1948. How many Jews were forcibly evicted from their homes, their properties confiscated, when the Jewish state was established? I personally know a Jew of Egyptian heritage that was alive at the time. His family lost their fortune, their home, and their community. The expulsion of arabs from Israel would be justice for the injustice they perpetrated against the Jewish people.
“Palestine” is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago.
The “Palestinians” are Arabs who were brought to the region by the Ottoman empire as part of the Muslim occupation in the region. They are definitely not the tribes from Crete who settled down in the 5 cities of Gaza strip after the Exodus of Israel from Egypt. These tribes were called Philistines and they weren’t Arabs at all and the nowadays “Palestinians” are definitely not their descendants. The Philistines don’t exist as a nation nowadays.
There’s no “Palestinian”nation but an ARAB one which went out of the Arabian Peninsula and occupied dozens of lands, including the land of Israel.
The Arabs who were living in the land of Israel started to call themselves “Palestinians” only after the establishment of Israel in 1948 and prior to it they called themselves just ‘Arabs’ and this is how they called their organizations (‘Arab Higher Committee’) and their struggles (‘The Great Arab Revolt’) and nick named the land of Israel in different names such as ‘Southern Syria’.
There was an Israeli state in the land of Israel 2000 years before the evil prophet of Islam allegedly flying on a “magical horse” from Mecca to Jerusalem.
Israel isn’t just a name of a state. It’s first and for all a name of a nation (Am Yisrael). Israel is the name of the father of the nation (Jacob) and Israelis are his descendants. The real meaning of the word ‘Israeli’ is someone who belongs to the nation of Israel and not only “a citizen of a state called Israel”.
The word ‘Jews’ was invented by gentiles. When the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans occupied the land of Israel they called all the Israelis in the name ‘Jews’ because at those days the tribe of Judah was the biggest and the dominant tribe which survived the exile of Assyria in which 10 tribes of Israel were exiled. The tribe of Judah lived in the Judean desert thus the gentiles who occupied the land of Israel called the members of this tribe (and also the ones of Benjamin and Levi who joined it) in the name ‘Jews’.
When Israelis (Jews) who live abroad go to synagogue they don’t read about Jews in the prayer books nor in the Torah but about ‘The Nation of Israel’, ‘The Children of Israel’, ‘The House of Israel’,'Shema Yisrael’ etc. They are Israelis because they belong to the nation of Israel even if they aren’t citizens of a state called Israel.Both the words ‘Jews’ and ‘Israelis’ refer to nationality, to ethnic identity and not to religion. Jews are members of the tribe of Judah and not “people who believe in Judaism”. And the nation isn’t called Judah but Israel, and so does the land and in the future the 10 tribes will return to this nation.
That’s why Arab citizens of Israel don’t define themselves as Israelis but as Arab/”Palestinian” citizens of a state CALLED Israel. They aren’t members of the Israeli nation but of the Ishmaelite nation. Ishmael used to shoot arrows at Isaac (father of Israel) while saying:”I’m only playing…” That’s why there’s no “Israeli-Palestinian conflict” but a WAR that the Ishmaelites/Arabs opened on the Israelis.Also Muhammad murdered Israelis in Saudi Arabia who refused to accept this murderous pagan dream.
Couple of facts about Israel that the haters of Israel don’t like:
It is insane that the government of Israel is actually talking peace with these murderous beasts. There is no peace with those whose goal is to make the world clean of all Jews. There was no peace with Nazis, there is no peace with Islam which preaches every Friday sermon to kill Jews.
Rabbi Kahane was a modern prophet. He proposed that Israel relocates the arabs who do not want to live in peace with the Jewish people, in the Jewish state. There are 22 Muslim arab nations and only one Jewish nation.
Read More: http://mytorah.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/there-is-no-such-thing-as-palestine-nor-palestinian-people/
HUH? what did Herodotus have to do with it?
Yeah, Yeah, the British also called it Palestine, in their ignorance born of their characteristic arrogance.
What happened to the Canaanites were they wiped out
Never thought I’d see the day when Jews would assume the birthright of Christ in this way.
if there was ever a stupid notion, it was that Jesus was a mere phantom who only appeared to have a human body.
Whatever anybody wishes to believe about Jesus and His Divinity, that he was born a baby of Mary the Jew in (probably) Bethleham in Judea and lived as a (Jewish) HUMAN BEING in Judea/Israel is beyond dispute. We know that there were Gnostic influences in the koran.... here’s one of the chief such influences, to deny Jesus son of Mary.
I guess that once they remake Jesus into a mere phantasm then he may as well belong to a phoney, non-existent ethnic group, too.
It all fits together, they deny Jesus existed in any real sense of the word and then they want to shove him into a non-existent category or classification of people that don’t exist as a real entity either.
Abbas, you don’t have to believe in Christianity but please stop making up lies about Jesus! It is insulting, it is blasphemous. And you never know when the good Christians of the world might start punishing blasphemers like you IslamoNazis punish Christians and Jews......
Wel, He did a little number on the money-changers.
Perhaps that counts? :)
Jesus was a carpenter. Have you ever known a Palestinian carpenter? Case dismissed. With prejudice!
It’s my understanding that “Jew” does indeed come from Hebrew “Yehudi” (from “Yehudah” or Judah), and that’s actually the term as it appears in different languages around the world. It wasn’t invented by the goyim. Even English “Jew” is derived from the Germanic form “Jude” (from “Judah”, again). Arabic “Yahud” is cognate.
The Jordanians are right to keep the “Palestinian” Arabs out o their country, because they do not belong there. The whole anti-Israel campaign is actually inspired by Nazism; people from Nasser on down embraced “Islamic socialism”, which is based on national socialism, and “pan-Arabism”, which is based on Nazi pan-Germanism. The Jordanians are right to not want to be a part of that imperialistic Islamic/Arabic caliphate movement.
As for that rather accursed word “Palestine”, it was derived from “Philistine”, and that’s exactly what the “Palestinians” call themselves in Arabic (“al-Filestini”). They are obviously not the same people as the Canaanite Philistines that lived around David’s time.
I think that we shouldn’t listen to left-slanted stuff out of the Israeli government myself.
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