Skip to comments.72-year-old East Moline woman arrested for 2008 seat belt ticket
Posted on 12/26/2013 5:01:54 PM PST by moonshinner_09
The family of a 72-year-old woman is calling for change after she was arrested for a five-year-old seat belt ticket. They said, You got a warrant. A warrant? A warrant for what? said Carol Fulscher, the woman arrested. I never wouldve imagined in a million years that they wouldve arrested a 72-year-old woman, said Jeanette Byrd, Carols daughter. Fulscher, comfortably sitting on her couch at her home in East Moline, was sitting in a jail cell Saturday night, December 21, 2013. I was frightened to think that she was in a jail cell, with who knows who, said Byrd. According to the East Moline Police Department public arrest report, East Moline Police brought Fulscher to the Rock Island County Jail at 10:39 p.m. on December 21, 2013. I couldnt imagine what she had been arrested for, said Byrd. Her charge was contempt of court. The reason for the charge was an unpaid seat belt ticket from 2008. What in the name of time? For a seat belt ticket? said Fulscher. Fulschers sister called East Moline Police when she couldnt get a hold of her. She asked police to do a well being check. When the East Moline Police officers arrived at Fulschers home, they ran her ID and saw the warrant for the ticket. When Fulscher couldnt pay the ticket, she says they brought her in.
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And as always with these thing the story writer carefully misdirects the situation. Carol was NOT jailed for no wearing her seat belt, she was jailed for not paying her ticket for 5 years. It’s unfortunate she’s got these conditions, but there’s no way for the cops to know that, and maybe her caregivers should have been paying attention.
Or just maybe the cops could have acted with some simple human decency. Sadly that is completely lacking in today’s “law enforcement” droids.
I’m really starting to hate cops. Frigging jack booted tax enforcers is all thy are anymore. I suppose this old woman is lucky there wasn’t a dog around for these mindless thugs with badges to shoot.
We do not see posts as stupid as that on every thread.
What was this unpaid ticket for again, genius?
A fine for what?
Absolutely she was jailed over a seatbelt.
A few years ago in CO, a 78-year-old rancher was locked up and deprived of all of the wealth he’d worked for all of his life because of some of his cattle dying during an unusually cold spring (new animal protection law). That kind of policy has been in practice around the nation for some time already.
So have fun. Enjoy the weather fluctuations, famine, real estate collapse, falling revenues, bond collapse and the like.
The IL side of the Quad Cities is entirely run by liberals. The judge being one as well. As for the cops, it was probably a lot safer to spend their time arresting her, than someone from the guvmint housing east of the John Deere Harvester plant.
Now lets hear why it took the cops 5 years to find her. Wasn’t her address on her Drivers license?
I hoped they used a nightstick... and a taser. ;-)
Oh that one’s easy: late fees. Tickets are after all a revenue stream.
At least he didn’t break her teeth or kick her in the head.
No she was jailed for not paying. If she had been jailed for not wearing her seatbelt they wouldn’t have waited 5 years, if anybody had bothered to find out she had an outstanding fine and paid it she wouldn’t have been jailed. If you get ANY fine and let it rot long enough you’ll land in jail.
They probably could have taken a different path. But understand that’s what happens when fines get left unpaid for years. It’s unfortunate, but a lot of people did the wrong thing getting there.
She was 67 years old when she got the ticket. She forgot. Why would the family check to see if she has any warrants?
The article cites “Contempt of Court.” It is not a criminal or even a municipal charge, but a judicial sanction imposed to preserve the ‘dignity of the tribunal.’ The question I have is whether the seat-belt infraction was a State statute or a municipal code violation. If the latter, then the “Court” arguably would have been a purely municipal organ not enforcing “law” per se, and thus granted very limited police power. The best racket in the country right now is to control a municipality. There are small ones for sale in various places. I’ll be the judge, you be the police chief, and my wife can be the mayor. Drive through my town and you’re in vai-oh-lation.
Did they shoot her dog too? (Just asking)
I’ll bet you she paid that ticket and the warrant issued was bogus.
Because they say she’s demented, so clearly odd behavior has happened for her to take the diagnostic tests necessary. If you’ve got a relative doing stuff odd enough you want their doctor to check them for dementia you probably should do some poking around to see what other stuff they’ve done you don’t know about. Demented seniors are a prime source of income for the Home Shopping Network and that crowd.
Considering the costs of incarceration, and any special measures they had to take for an elderly woman with dementia...it was stupid to arrest her for such a minor ticket. They end up spending more on jailing her than the ticket
Reason why folks need to pay attention to their local governments, for they elect the folks that run the police and prosecutors. If folks vote more less of this nonsense happens
That’s generally the long term side effect of failure to appear, so probably the ticket resulted in a court date, she never showed up, which got the ball rolling. The article doesn’t have them chasing her, basically it looks like a bench warrant got issued, but for something this size those bench warrants generally mean the next time cops interact with them they get arrested (my nephew-in-law hobbies in failure to appear, I’ve learned a lot about how this goes), then eventually her sister calls for a welfare check... and walla there’s your next time the cops interact with them.
Lot’s of unfortunate happenings and lack of happenings. I certainly don’t think she belongs in jail, but that’s how these things unwind sometimes.
Im really starting to hate cops. Frigging jack booted tax enforcers is all thy are anymore. I suppose this old woman is lucky there wasnt a dog around for these mindless thugs with badges to shoot.
Yes, that sums it up nicely.
There is an inadvertently very disturbing series on A & E. One of those cop ride along shows. This one is named ‘Marshall Law Texas’. The name itself, while meant to be a clever pun by the TV land types is chilling. The show is supposed to display what a simply wonderful group of people the Houston, Texas US Marshall's Service office is staffed with. In reality the persons and a lot of the operations they launch should enrage any US citizen who vaguely remembers what 1776 and the Constitution are about. A number of the Deputy Marshall’s are either outright thugs or power tripping head cases. One particularly Brownshirt type likes to be called ‘Thor’ and announces loudly how he enjoys ‘hammering’ those he deals with. Another weaselly little Mexican is shown setting up a ‘dynamic entry’ operation to arrest someone who allegedly committed spousal abuse. These people certainly remind one of Wellington's remark on looking at a flock of press ganged jail birds sent to fill the ranks of his army on the peninsula, “I hope they scare the French half as much as they scare me’.
I bet jaywalking will result in a felony soon with prison time.
All government is force; bottom line.
You can argue whether it was an arrest for an unpaid fine or for a seat belt violation, it adds up to the same thing.
Why would anyone call the police? They come out and investigate you. Her sister was concerned about her. I’m very hesitant to call the authorities over anything. They always gather the caller’s info before assessing the situation.
Is running an ID SOP for a "well being check?" Why? It looks like a shakedown operation.
How could they check? Have you ever tried to run yourself for warrants? I don't think I can, and I'm sure not going to ask someone who can to do it for me, I could be arrested. Like the lady in the story.
To keep the assignment, one must serve warrants.
The city or town benefits. The aggressive servers of warrants benefit. The clerks and courts benefit.
The federal gubmint benefits....call it “training and grooming”.
Just because government rewards and gives prizes to tens of millions of illegals running though our streets, it’s no excuse not to arrest and cage demented grandma for failing to pay her seat belt fine.
The could have shot her dog and tased her....
She lucky and hopefully she’ll do what’s right in the future.
The real question here is .... did they shoot her new 4 month old Christmas puppy before they tased and cuffed her?
It was a welfare check. The cops could have used a little common sense and told the relative about the ticket without arresting her. How much taxpayers’ money will be wasted with her time in jail and court date compared to informing the family about the citation?
She may not have even been the one who got it. I went to renew my DL in one state and it was ‘held up’. I went to HS with the DMV person, he whispered to me ‘check such and such state’.
So I did.
I had an outstanding parking ticket issued in that state and a warrant had been issued for my arrest! From the previous year.
Problem was. I hadn’t been in that particular state, or within 2K miles of that state in over a 5 years. And could prove it.
I called the state in question and informed them I had PROOF I wasn’t in their state or anywhere near it (work records, etc, that placed me 2K miles away on the day that I’d supposedly parked in a tow zone). Not only that, the car in question had been tagged in another state for 4 years prior. I got an instant apology. I sweetly insisted on a notarized document to that effect (and actually got it!).
I suspect when I moved from that state and re-tagged my car in the new state (and sent the old tag back to the previous state) my tag was ‘re-issued’ by someone ‘under the table’. And that new person had parked in a tow zone. Or some meter maid had transposed the number/letters on some random tag and the computer system had associated it with MY name/address.
I still have that notarized letter in my safe deposit box, btw.
If I hadn’t gone to HS with the DMZ dude I would have probably spent at least a night in jail and/or been extradited to the previous state. It would have been VERY legally expensive for me to fight that. All the while I was 100% totally and completely innocent of ANY of the charges, having been two THOUSAND miles away when the infraction occurred.
” If you get ANY fine and let it rot long enough youll land in jail.”
Debtors prison? There was a thread about this earlier today
or shoot her dog
On the way to the arrest, police passed dozens of obvious illegal aliens.
Around here, thousands of criminals are released with very little jail-time supposedly due to budget constraints. Many other criminals serve no jail-time, not a minute at all. And many of these are guilty of bad crimes, but don't include failure to wear a seatbelt.
No, they can’t. It’s a CYA nation now.
It’s her own fault.
She should have told the cop she was an illegal alien when she was stopped. Then she wouldn’t be in this fix.
No, not debtors prison. Debtors prison is for when you owe people or companies. If you look carefully at the punishment list for laws there’s always alternatives, X money, Y jail time, if they chose the money path and you don’t pay eventually you get switched. Although in this person’s case it all seems to tie to failure to appear, which results in a bench warrant so you get arrested but not usually any more jail time than it takes to make you appear before the judge.
The problem of course with them using “common sense” is now it winds up in their logs that they interacted with a person who had a bench warrant extant and did not respect the warrant, now THEY’RE in trouble and could wind up in jail for contempt. Maybe if they hadn’t been sent out on a welfare check, with all the paperwork that implies, they would have just informed the family, but the paperwork put them in a spot. It’s an entrenched bureaucracy that puts people in a lot of “them or me” situations, people tend to chose “me”.
It is nothing more than debt collecting at the point of a gun by the government
It’s the way the punishment system has worked for ages. Heck I’ve got a couple of friends that when fined just went ahead and requested jail, they informed the judge they could not possibly pay the fine and the judge changed the punishment.
And maybe there should be a GD statute of limitations on minor traffic fines if the government can't be bothered to collect them in five years.
That would be awesome, then nobody would pay their fines. As someone that get a ticket every few years I fully support this plan.
Now tell me again how they won't move against American citizens if given orders to by the “appropriate authorities”
Now tell me again how they won't move against American citizens if given orders to by the “appropriate authorities”