Posted on 12/27/2013 4:04:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
ALBANY — New York, whose status as the most populous state has long been ceded, will soon fall behind Florida into fourth place, a long-anticipated drop that is rife with symbolism and that could carry potentially serious economic consequences in coming years.
When the Census Bureau releases its latest population estimates on Monday, demographers expect that Florida and New York will be narrowly separated — perhaps by as little as a few thousand people — and that if Florida does not pass New York this time, it almost certainly will do so in 2014.
The census figures underscore immigration trends, as foreign-born migrants continue to move to warm-weather states such as California and Texas — No. 1 and 2 — as well as to Florida. The newcomers also include winter-weary New Yorkers who move or retire to Florida at a rate of over 50,000 a year, twice the number of Floridians who head to New York.
But the shift also highlights the struggles in upstate New York, which has lost large-scale manufacturing jobs and large chunks of population, offsetting consistent gains in New York City. But the city’s growth has seemingly not been robust enough to stave off hubs in Florida like Jacksonville, Miami-Dade County and Tampa.
“It’s going to happen,” said Andrew A. Beveridge, a professor of sociology at Queens College and an expert on the census, on New York’s falling into fourth place. “And if Florida accidentally grew faster and New York slowed down, it could have happened already.”(continued)
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Unfortunately many, not all, of the New Yorkers that move here to FL are turning FL into the crap state of NY, rude, pushy and or course they are all far superior then anyone else. A lot like the people that move here from other countries and don’t want to assimilate to their new home. New Yorkers shouldn’t able to move any further south then NJ...LOL
Different Democrat Party. Different Republican Party. Different population makeup. Different economy. Different lifestyle. Different educational system. Different religion.
The Progressive infestation began with that election.
Everything has changed. The increasing population in Florida isn’t due to good Conservatives flocking to the state. It’s all northern Progs and entitlement whores. The more our state population increases, the bluer we get.
Florida is just about unrecognizable as a result. I keep hoping that the snakes and gators will revolt.
The loss of population is why Michigan is turning red.
My wife and I moved to FL this year (from WA), and we’re conservative
I should have clarified with “Northeastern”....I think of Washington State as western more than northern
My bad...didn’t mean to lump all from the north
Yep, old Florida is gone. I only travel north from Hamilton County.
The loss of industry is driving the population decline, along with the "natural" migration to warmer climates that began once the infrastructure in the South had caught up with the Northeast and Rust Belt.
The loss of population is why Michigan is turning red.
I think we may be getting all the liberals from Michigan here in FL...
That’s a very good point.
Michiganders have always gone to Florida. I know several people who own homes in both states.
Well now that our infrastructure is caught up come on down and run our jobs off.
They moved here and brought their idiot politics with them.
Well you’re always welcome to come to Michigan. We’re trending republican, primarily rural, gun friendly with lots of hunting and fishing. Our winters are relatively mild compared to states west of the lakes.
True, all the refugees from the east coast are moving to the west. Dade and Palm Beach must be getting over crowded.
Dade is a third world experience these days. Unlike any other place I have been in the US. The Hispanic and immigrant tsunami from Dade is pushing middle class whites out. White liberals don’t want to live amongst them and and are heading north and west in the state. SW FL has similar weather and not nearly as much of the 3rd world ambiance that Miami has.
I remember when NY had 45 EV and California had 32.
NY will soon be a two-tier state with the moneyed elites and the immigrant/dependent class. After several of the moneyed elite get killed by the lower class, that elite will start to drift away to safer areas. That will be the end for NY.
I hope they don’t come here.
Isn't that kind of like saying that summers in Arizona are much cooler than they are in hell? LOL.
Seriously, though ... I spent a few days in Michigan a few years ago while traveling for business in the Ann Arbor area. It's a very pretty state with an odd sort of feel about it (to me, at least). In places like Flint, Saginaw and Bay City, I got the impression that they had seen their heyday in the 1970s and had been in a long decline since then ... but that there is a lot of potential there if the conditions are right.
I lived for a few years in upstate New York while finishing high school. When I graduated I went to college in another state and never went back except to visit my parents.
At the time, some years ago, the attitude of many, including those in office was against liberty. If some activity was not explicitly legal they assumed it was illegal. One example of the nanny state mindset was that the state speed limit was 50 MPH. It took forever to go anywhere. Government knows best.
Where I live now, there is still an approach that is something is not explicitly illegal, it is legal, apart from its moral implications. This is an attitude of liberty.
Now I couldn’t possibly live there. I would be a felon for the things I own and do.
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