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New York Soon to Trail Florida in Population
The New York Times ^ | December 26, 2013 | Jesse McKinley

Posted on 12/27/2013 4:04:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

ALBANY — New York, whose status as the most populous state has long been ceded, will soon fall behind Florida into fourth place, a long-anticipated drop that is rife with symbolism and that could carry potentially serious economic consequences in coming years.

When the Census Bureau releases its latest population estimates on Monday, demographers expect that Florida and New York will be narrowly separated — perhaps by as little as a few thousand people — and that if Florida does not pass New York this time, it almost certainly will do so in 2014.

The census figures underscore immigration trends, as foreign-born migrants continue to move to warm-weather states such as California and Texas — No. 1 and 2 — as well as to Florida. The newcomers also include winter-weary New Yorkers who move or retire to Florida at a rate of over 50,000 a year, twice the number of Floridians who head to New York.

But the shift also highlights the struggles in upstate New York, which has lost large-scale manufacturing jobs and large chunks of population, offsetting consistent gains in New York City. But the city’s growth has seemingly not been robust enough to stave off hubs in Florida like Jacksonville, Miami-Dade County and Tampa.

“It’s going to happen,” said Andrew A. Beveridge, a professor of sociology at Queens College and an expert on the census, on New York’s falling into fourth place. “And if Florida accidentally grew faster and New York slowed down, it could have happened already.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: demographics; economy; florida; newyork
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To: SeminoleCounty
I think we may be getting all the liberals from Michigan here in FL...

Retired UAW, thicker than flies...

41 posted on 12/27/2013 5:46:27 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Dr. Thorne

I don’t ever see NYC clearing out. After the DiBlasio disaster they’ll swing back to a Giuliani type.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 5:48:00 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hard to believe high taxes and over-regulation are detrimental to an economy. Hunh...learn something new every day - unless you’re a libtard.


43 posted on 12/27/2013 5:48:23 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Alberta's Child
I spent my first year out of college in Michigan, working for Dow Chemical in Midland.

It's a very pretty state with an odd sort of feel about it

By golly, it is a pretty state. But, in 1961-62, the "feel" I got was conditioned by:

1. Driving into Marquette (up on the UP) on July 4 -- in a sleet storm.

2. Experiencing my first 30 below temperature.

3. Around November 1, wondering why people were tying streamers of fabric around the top of their radio antennae. By December 1, I knew why.

4. Maneuvering around all the ice skaters on Abbott Road, skating to work.

5. Going to lunch at a Saginaw restaurant, returning to the car and finding the parking lot strewn with roofing nails -- with four guys in a black Cadillac looking on.

6. Every-other-Tuesday, the entire town of Midland smelled like grape juice. A considerable improvement over some of the other smells that emanated from the Dow plant.

Actually, side from Winter and the unions, Michigan was a very neat place...

44 posted on 12/27/2013 6:00:41 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can we get our deposit back for returning Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to her birthplace in Queens? How about if we pay?


45 posted on 12/27/2013 6:13:52 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: lodi90
You got that right about Dade.

The South Americans are coming in and overstaying their visas by the tens of thousands, probably 40% of the population is illegal and the corrupt County Government is flush with cash due to tourism and spreads it around to their family and friends.

They have no scrutiny as the press and the Feds are in on the scam, and as long as the gravy train keeps on rolling, it seems like Havana/Caracas North will maintain the status quo.

Property taxes are relatively low and stable, the only violent crime is committed by the descendants of the slaves that the GOP set loose without repatriating them back to where they came from, and as long as you stay out of Liberty City or Opa-Locka you are pretty safe.

Dade is arguably becoming more conservative, as Venezuelans fleeing the communist government are supplanting the white liberals who are leaving because they can't deal with hostile hispanics who refuse to speak english and hate commies their fellow travelers.

46 posted on 12/27/2013 6:21:22 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks Mr. Teddy, you gave Wilson 8 years and a post World War One botched peace!

47 posted on 12/27/2013 6:22:06 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Both places have plenty of problems. Given my choice (one I’m glad I don’t have to make) Florida, hands own. Mostly because of climate, both social and weather.


48 posted on 12/27/2013 6:32:55 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: upchuck

also no income tax!

marginal rate now 49.2% in NYS
51.71 in NYC


49 posted on 12/27/2013 6:36:22 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

No income tax in FL is a comeon. The state of FL probably has fewer expenses than NY. But FL makes up for it in other ways.


50 posted on 12/27/2013 6:45:56 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: upchuck

It’s not a coincidence so many of the PGA golfers, etc are based in Fl. I think a guy named Limbaugh moved down there from NYC too, didn’t he?


51 posted on 12/27/2013 6:49:25 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: babygene

True and they are bringing their Liberal views with them.


52 posted on 12/27/2013 7:22:47 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (MerryChristmasAll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New Yorkers move to Florida and Florida becomes New York. What’s the big deal?


53 posted on 12/27/2013 7:39:56 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: nascarnation

Rush has spoken about this several times on his program. From his comments, I gather his main reason for moving was to get away from the onerous taxes in NY and NYC.


54 posted on 12/27/2013 8:41:54 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: babygene

This worse than it first seems. Floridas population completely changes over every seven years


55 posted on 12/28/2013 3:49:55 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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