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Tougher N.Y. gun law leads to end of AR-15 sales, rise in felony cases
buffalonews.com ^

Posted on 12/30/2013 2:08:36 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

ALBANY – Nearly a year after passage of the state’s new gun law, dealer sales of popular AR-15 semiautomatic rifles have ended in New York, and arrest data shows that more than 1,000 gun-possession charges in New York City were boosted from misdemeanors to felonies because of the changes.

Meanwhile, 59 people have been charged statewide with misdemeanors for possessing large-capacity magazines or having more than seven bullets loaded in a magazine, both outlawed by the law passed last January in the aftermath of the school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

A report from the Division of Criminal Justice Services shows that only one person charged with the illegal sale or transfer of a gun defined as an assault weapon as of mid-December. The new law tightened that definition to include AR-15s. Owners may keep their older weapons but must register them by April 15.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; ny
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." -Atlas Shrugged
1 posted on 12/30/2013 2:08:36 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

So sad. Would be more sad if there were’nt still free(er) states. People should get out now.


2 posted on 12/30/2013 2:11:58 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

More bs from that fascist little dicktator Cuomo. The SAFE Act has made criminals out of law-abiding citizens who own firearms. This state is run by communists.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 2:28:37 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; All

Nyawkahs have made their bed...Now they hath to lay in it...

I have NO pity for them...


4 posted on 12/30/2013 2:28:44 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

How many of these people charged were in the act of committing a crime? How many have a history of criminal behavior?


5 posted on 12/30/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Red in Blue PA
"One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws"

Where is Che when you need him?

6 posted on 12/30/2013 2:41:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Vince Ferrer
How many of these people charged were in the act of committing a crime? How many have a history of criminal behavior?

Their your neighbors, the ones who work their arses off or come up with solutions in their work-sa-day world. Instead they create a parlor game that is a state of Herculean Flux where their is no their their, no absolutes other than what they create to deball the law-abiding and turn into a Felons. Statism at it's finest....

7 posted on 12/30/2013 2:42:24 PM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: stevie_d_64

We here in Western NY have no choice. The state is run by the communists in NYC. They think that upstate and western NY is a park like the Adirondacks.


8 posted on 12/30/2013 2:44:41 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Doesnt matter, they are simply part of the process of eliminating private ownership of firearms.

There are many gunowners who ignore gun control laws until they get charged with a felony like these people.


9 posted on 12/30/2013 2:53:53 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They need to throw every law abiding citizen in jail. That will solve their crime problem. First, I guess, they need to make law abiding citizens into criminals.


10 posted on 12/30/2013 2:56:12 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Red in Blue PA

How do they ‘catch’ these citizens?

Who rats them out?


11 posted on 12/30/2013 3:13:56 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Silliness.

Of course, this is kooky-town where they do things like ban trans fats, tobacco and soft drinks.

Why anybody would voluntarily subject themselves to that kind of crap is beyond me.

12 posted on 12/30/2013 3:29:25 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Red in Blue PA

“arrest data shows that more than 1,000 gun-possession charges in New York City were boosted from misdemeanors to felonies because of the changes”

Hmm, I guess the thugs and prosecutors (but I am being redundant)in NYS are unaware of “ex poste facto” clause in the US Constitution; Article I, Section 9, Clause 3. They should at least be aware of the document, as they wipe their behinds with it on a daily basis.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 3:45:33 PM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Communists suck.


14 posted on 12/30/2013 3:47:52 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Time Is Here


15 posted on 12/30/2013 3:52:24 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Do you think upstate NY could get away with seceding from NYC and either joining PA or forming a separate state? Kind of like what they’re attempting in parts of CO and CA?


16 posted on 12/30/2013 4:01:18 PM PST by lcms rev
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To: Red in Blue PA
NY is surpassing California as the communists capital of America. The citizens of NY are the most ignorant in the Country and they just do not know the damage to freedom they have voted for.
17 posted on 12/30/2013 4:20:11 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Red in Blue PA

Speaking of this, my son and I were out today, making holes in stuff with noisy things that make holes in stuff, when he reached down and picked up a perfectly good ‘high capacity’ magpul magazine off the ground. Yay. Good thing we’re not in NY or CO, or we’d get 25 to life.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 4:25:02 PM PST by lurk
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To: Paladin2

19 posted on 12/30/2013 4:32:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: stevie_d_64; All
“Nyawkahs have made their bed...Now they hath to lay in it...

I have NO pity for them...”

These laws were rushed through illegally, in the middle of the night with *no* public output. I have full sympathy for people that find themselves under the rule of tyrants, even if, at some time in the past, they voted for them.

20 posted on 12/30/2013 5:01:33 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The problem with NY is the public and semi-public unions, like vampires sucking the life blood out of the populace.
They are lead by communists and control the politics of the state.
This includes ALL union members, especially local government, Police, Fire, Prison staff and all level of school employee.
They demand things from the public trough. Political crooks give them what they want. The elections are a joke.
They retire to warm and sunny places with their bloated pensions ($125K+ PUBLIC PENSIONS!)and bring their corruption with them.
When they come for you (and your money), there will be noone left to protest.


21 posted on 12/30/2013 5:02:47 PM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: lcms rev

I would love to be rid of downstate NY and Long Island.


22 posted on 12/30/2013 5:05:31 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: demshateGod
From deep within the peoples Republic of Nyuk:
“I'm glad I'm an American. I'm glad I'm free, but I wish I was
A dog and Cuomo was a tree...
23 posted on 12/30/2013 5:22:26 PM PST by joegoeny
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To: Red in Blue PA

SOB’s! As you wrote, making criminals out of the innocent. May they rot.


24 posted on 12/30/2013 5:36:42 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Meanwhile, 59 people have been charged statewide with misdemeanors for possessing large-capacity magazines or having more than seven bullets loaded in a magazine”

Anyone know where the NRA is, are they offering any legal support?


25 posted on 12/30/2013 5:37:14 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Red in Blue PA

by the next census NY state will be the 5th largest state in population. they are already 4th.


26 posted on 12/30/2013 5:40:50 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: B4Ranch

when does you neighbor cease to be your neighbor?


27 posted on 12/30/2013 5:44:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

When he ceases to be your friend and becomes your enemy.


28 posted on 12/30/2013 5:49:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: crusher

***more than 1,000 gun-possession charges in New York City were boosted from misdemeanors to felonies because of the changes”***

Does this mean the new felons will not be required to register their firearms as it violates their 5th Amendment rights?

Haynes v. United States (1968).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States

“The original Haynes decision continues to block state prosecutions of criminals who fail to register guns as required by various state law gun registration schemes.”


29 posted on 12/30/2013 6:04:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: marktwain
I have full sympathy for people that find themselves under the rule of tyrants, even if, at some time in the past, they voted for them.

Chances are most upstaters didn't vote for these tyrants. Unfortunately, they are outnumbered by the commies in the city.

Most of the ones I know are furious, but impotent to do anything about this. The county sheriffs are resisting as are many of the county legislatures but in the end the NY State Police and Albany hold all the power. They are going to continue to ram it down their throats and will probably prevail. It's all in the numbers and money. Upstate has neither.

30 posted on 12/30/2013 7:01:15 PM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yes you do!!! You do have a choice, and you have a job to make sure your voice gets accounted for...No matter what the cost!!!


31 posted on 12/30/2013 11:23:15 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: marktwain

I agree with you, I remember how all this was pushed through in recent past...

But I still have NO pity for them for not taking care of this infestation once their stink got out of the box...

The NYState government hedged their bets that no one would fight this, and they won...They believe people in their state are a bunch of cowards...


32 posted on 12/30/2013 11:29:26 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

More victimless “crimes”.


33 posted on 12/30/2013 11:31:56 PM PST by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
How many have a history of criminal behavior?

How many have a history of frequenting "conservative hate sites" like Free Republic?

Pre-crime, anyone?

34 posted on 12/31/2013 6:56:51 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Red in Blue PA
But, but - they saids that the King's Men in New York wouldn't enforce this law!

LOL! p0wn3d!

35 posted on 12/31/2013 7:08:28 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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