Posted on 01/02/2014 1:08:18 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — A California hospital is unwilling to allow an outside doctor to fit a 13-year-old declared brain dead after tonsil surgery with the breathing and feeding tubes that would allow her to be safely transferred to another facility, its lawyer said Tuesday.
Children's Hospital Oakland will not permit the procedures to be performed on its premises because Jahi McMath is legally dead in the view of doctors who have examined her, lawyer Douglas Straus wrote in a letter to the girl's family.
"Performing medical procedures on the body of a deceased human being is simply not something Children's Hospital can do or ask its staff to assist in doing," he said.
The refusal appeared to reverse the position articulated Monday by a hospital spokesman. He said the hospital would allow a doctor retained by the family to insert a feeding tube and to replace the oral ventilator keeping Jahi's heart beating with a tracheal tube — surgical procedures that would stabilize Jahi if she is moved to a facility willing to keep caring for her.
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yes, it is strange that the media is not even asking what went wrong with the tonsillectomy (or recovery)...
these operations are quite commonplace and do not usually involve turning a child into a corpse
(I realize that mistakes can happen, also that sometimes there are unforeseen complications, I am only asking why the media has not thought to ask such questions)
Her brain is not receiving blood. You can be assured it is decomposing.
is she decomposing? no. She is taking in oxygen and the body is doing o2/co2 exchange, the heart is beating, there is a pulse.
It s a gross distortion to say she’s a corpse.
You would think with all the cases of people coming out of vegetative comas, of states where there hans’t been brain function recorded, that people would err on the side of the possibility that it might be such a case, too.
Plenty of cases where docs said the person was gone, dead, etc and they come back. I actually am praying this is one of those cases.
I doubt the stubborn people will learn anything from it, though.
How do you know her brain isn’t receiving blood/oxygen?
Read my posts. This child did not have a simple tonsillectomy!
The parents aren't asking to take their daughter home. They're demanding that she continue receiving long-term care. No facility capable of providing long-term care has offered to take her, most likely this is because she's deceased.
“If those parents want their baby to continue to receive care, then that’s THEIR business!”
Then they need to fill out the paperwork and find a facility. So far the family has submitted no paperwork, and no facility will take the body.
__She does not have rigor mortis, nor is she decomposing.__
Her brain is not receiving blood. You can be assured it is decomposing.
Accepting your assertion for the sake of discussion, we then see the reason for the term brain dead.
As opposed to dead, which needs no qualifier
I did not mean to cast aspersions on your honesty - I was just stating the obvious, this being the internet we have no way of knowing a poster's claims (for example, I am not actually Don Rodrigo, chasing Moors around with my lance). That said - I fully agreed with your comments and appreciated them. It included important technical details.
I understand the hospital’s position but quite frankly their PR spokesperson is a disaster. The PR guy is trying to win an argument that has no winners. Just suck it up, tell the media that all parties are painted in to a corner and there is no satisfactory resolution for anybody.
Is that why they are trying to get her transferred outside of California? Pull the plug there, and file the lawsuit in a State without tort reform? I don't know the legal ramifications - just speculating.
Many things are illegal, but are done anyway. For the right kind of human organ, the black market might pay between $30k and $100k. That’s more than enough to tempt the unscrupulous.
Hospitals and other authorities have also been known to destroy critical parts before autopsy, to cover their rear ends against lawsuits.
Agreed. The man does not transmit compassion. At all. In a court of public opinion, he is a cold fish stinking up the tank.
Theoretically speaking, how long can the heart continue beating while being brain dead? Does the injunction against the hospital maybe give some time for this case to resolve itself?(heart to stop beating)
Is there such thing as an oral ventilator that keeps the heart pumping?
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By providing circulating oxygen the heart continues to pump.
Can a heart beat on its own, unassisted, in a dead body, if other organs are mechanically maintained?
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Yes. As a matter of fact I read about a crack addict whose heart was so blitzed up that that ekg kept rocking but she had been dead so long that the blood in her veins had coagulated.
Ba****ds know that no coroner will sign off.
That's pretty standard...........
Because she's brain dead. Multiple tests and doctors have confirmed there is absolutely no cerebral activity taking place. Nothing. None.
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