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Obamacare Confusion Reigns as Frustrated Patients Walk Out of Hospitals Without Treatment
The U.K. Daily Mail ^ | Thursday, January 2, 2014 | David Martosko

Posted on 01/02/2014 3:06:08 PM PST by kristinn

Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

Galvez said she enrolled in a Carefirst Blue Cross bronze plan at a cost of about $450 per month through healthcare.gov, three days before Christmas.

'No one has sent me a bill,' she said.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified in a December 11 congressional hearing that the federal government can't say how many new enrollees have written checks for their first month's premiums.

'Some may have paid, some may have not,' she conceded.

It's unlikely that a valid insurance card would have changed Galvez' fortunes, however.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; obamacare
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To: sheana

That has never been my experience, including last month. Always got the negotiated rate.


41 posted on 01/02/2014 3:23:50 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: kristinn; All

Before obamacare the hospitals would treat anyone. Apparently now that EVERYONE is supposed to have insurance the hospitals no longer believe they have to provide free healthcare.


42 posted on 01/02/2014 3:24:09 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: kristinn

Why was this woman at a hospital for a cough? Paying straight cash I could see a doctor at a clinic or urgent care center with the x-ray in the $200 neighborhood.


43 posted on 01/02/2014 3:24:28 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: jdege

The cheapest plan has the HIGHEST deductible.


44 posted on 01/02/2014 3:25:36 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: sheana

In reference to deducitibles, that’s probably what she was told.


45 posted on 01/02/2014 3:25:52 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: steve86

FYI. we purchased direct from BcBs, same letter, no cards. Wife went for test today, they found her in the system. No issues.. Hope it’s the same for you..


46 posted on 01/02/2014 3:25:59 PM PST by WorksinKOP
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To: Jane Long
GALLUP: MOST AMERICANS HAVE OBAMACARE HORROR STORIES
Fifty-nine percent of Americans told Gallup pollsters that they have had negative experiences with the Affordable Care Act, according to the public opinion giant's latest survey.
Only 7 per cent called their Obamacare journeys 'very positive,' but 29 per cent said their interaction with the new system has been 'very negative.'
Gallup interviewed 1,500 uninsured Americans in December, 450 of whom said they had visited health insurance exchange websites.

And guess what group the MSM picks to show if they cover Obamacare at all --
(Hint: It's a single digit.)

47 posted on 01/02/2014 3:26:31 PM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: kristinn

Welcome to DemocratCare Ms. Galvez, 100% of them voted for it in the House and Senate and not one Republican.


48 posted on 01/02/2014 3:26:38 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: kristinn

Even if she did sign up for it, her deductible may require that she pay all expenses until the deductible is met. I bet she didn't read the fine print. The deductibles on some of those bronze level policies can be between $4,000 and $6,000.


49 posted on 01/02/2014 3:26:54 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: WorksinKOP

Thanks, glad it worked out.


50 posted on 01/02/2014 3:27:08 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: kristinn
British media: reporting the news American networks REFUSE to cover!!
51 posted on 01/02/2014 3:27:40 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Secret Agent Man

offer to pay in cash and see how much they quote.


52 posted on 01/02/2014 3:28:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: sheana
36 Times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan
53 posted on 01/02/2014 3:29:11 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: steve86

Have you actually seen a doctor or has any medical services provided to you under Obamacare?

Did the system work? I’m betting not.


54 posted on 01/02/2014 3:29:34 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I bet she was surprised when she thought that it would be free. After all, that was implied.


55 posted on 01/02/2014 3:29:39 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

The plan with the highest premiums still has a deductible in the many thousands of dollars - far exceeding the $500 charge in question.


56 posted on 01/02/2014 3:30:08 PM PST by jdege
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To: steve86

Good point.


57 posted on 01/02/2014 3:30:17 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Responsibility2nd
Have you actually seen a doctor or has any medical services provided to you under Obamacare?

Of course not since it went into effect 15:31 ago.

But since I am staying with the same primary care provider and the same specialist, I doubt it will change that much from what it was before.

58 posted on 01/02/2014 3:32:05 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

Sorry, yesterday was the first day.


59 posted on 01/02/2014 3:33:24 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
an xray - $500?

First they got to put you in $50 paper gown. Then feed you 2 $50 aspirins. Then rent you a $75 wheel chair. Then have a couple of useless nurses come in and administer a breathing test that costs $100. Then they hire a pusher for the wheel chair for $60. Then they take a $100 xray. Then charge you $65 to discharge from the hospital.

Now comes the DR. fees!

60 posted on 01/02/2014 3:34:17 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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