Posted on 01/06/2014 8:22:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Thanks SeekAndFind.
Parsing words? We didn’t initially have any troops in Vietnam. What were they ‘special advisers” or something like that. A Vietnam War hero like Secretary Kerry would know that.
Nuke Karachi and Riyadh and watch how calm things get.
“I suppose we could also include Egypt for as long as we continue to pay them.”
Not any more. Egypt is pissed that we backed the Muslim Brotherhood and put them into office.
I am not concerned about Fallujah in the slightest.
Why are you? To what end?
Let me tell you my Fallujah policy. Within 24 hours of those contractors being murdered and tied to that bridge, I would have surrounded the city and ordered the inhabitants to leave. I would have had checkpoints and any "foreign fighters" I discovered on the way out would have been shot on the spot.
When the 48 hours were up, I would have erased Fallujah from the face of the earth with 4 low altitude airbursts from W-76 warheads.
I would then have summoned King Fahd, President Musharraf, and Mullah Omar under safe passage and given a 30 minute presentation about how Trident submarines work.
There was, and is, no other satisfactory solution to the Fallujah problem.
If we had nuked Tora Bora in December 2001, we and Saddam would have been besties within twelve hours, and he and his army would have done anything we asked.
I'm not, other than to point out the disingenuousness of Jon Kerry. I kinda like your policy.
Not our problem.
Muslims are animals and arent deserving of American blood being wasted.
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Agreed.
Nuking Tora Bora would have alleviated a symptom. The source of the disease is Saudi Arabia. That’s the boil that needs to be lanced. Permanently.
If I recall correctly it was the Bush presidencies that took the USA into the hell hole of the middle east in the first place. The first time was to save the Saudi kingdom to back stab the USA once again for oil revenues and the second time was to avenge what wasn’t done the first time. Shame on the USA ‘leaders’ who wasted the lives of USA young men to keep foreign oil flowing. I feel entitled to make such comments as a survivor as an infantry person of WWII who had his only sibling brother killed on Okinawa. We knew what we were fighting for was worth more than Saudi oil which was going to the Nazis.
Let the Iraqi tribal leadees take care of bidness this time
Last time, al Qaeda (many of whom are “foreigners” or not connected to the local culture) way overstepped itself, butchered the wrong child, committed other atrocities and pixxed off the local tribal hoi polloi and cultural leaders so bad they finally took things into their own hands and decide to cooperate with the US military.
That’s the only solution
Fallujah either wants to be an extreme islamic sharia hugging haven.... or not. We need to stay OUT OF IT
This is why the terms of the withdrawal represent a complete disaster. A U.S. military presence still in the country could have blown these Al-Qaeda bastards to Kingdom come.
Yes but the first Bush was careful to setup the war so the US looked good, had a real coalition and took few or no allied causalities, and we didnt get stuck with the bill $$$. It had a clear and doable mission :Get Iraq out of Kuwait then get out.
GWB invasion trying to top his dad's was the complete opposite. It was one disaster after another and I can only conclude that he didn't know or care what he was doing..
You don't invade and occupy these hellholes.
we did drive the al Qaeda leadership out of Afghanistan
where did you think they would run to, if you were advising Bush in 2002? Bush’s intelligence advisors figured Iraq
So since we made that untenable, they ended up in Pakistan, and 2d axis in Yemen
and now “fighters” making their way into Libya Syria and Iraq, but where is their leadership ensconced? Nowhere obama the drone king is willing to effectively neutralize
It’s despicable that US policy allowed thousands of our troops to be killed to allow the creation of the must corrupt government on earth.
Yes, I quite agree, as you can see from my many posts on this topic.
The enemy center of gravity is KSA and Pakistan.
The only US military presence that had any interest for me would have been an occupation force protecting the American governor of Arabia and his lieutenants as they reconstructed and reeducated the local's children.
Agree. Leave the graveyard of empires and the devil's sandbox to their respective populations.
Per Fox News reporting: The propaganda wing of the white hut just announced that eagle eye drones and hellfire missiles are on the way to Iraq. It’s groundhog day all over again.
I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
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