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(Winipeg) Judge: ‘Let’s Burn the Jew’ not Racism, Even if you Burn a Jew
The Jewish Press ^ | 1/6/2014 | Lori Lowenthal Marcus

Posted on 01/06/2014 4:28:24 PM PST by markomalley

A high school student grabbed a Jewish female classmate, held a lighter to her hair and said out loud, “let’s burn the Jew,”  but a Canadian judge concluded that the incident was “not racially motivated.”

The incident between two 15 year old Winnipeg, Canada high school students took place in 2011.

The lawyer for the defendant claimed, essentially, it was the girl’s fault her hair caught on fire.

He said his client grabbed the girl, lit the lighter and made the comments, but her hair caught fire when she pulled away. He also said that referring to the girl as “the Jew” was simply the way people interacted at the school, and the defendant was not the only one who called her that. He referred to his client as “a jerk and a bully,” but said the incident was “impulsive and unplanned.”

The defendant’s therapist claimed the incident was an “impulsive teenage action.”

Winnipeg’s Provincial Court Judge Robert Finlayson, before whom the trial was held, agreed with the defense. While he called the act “totally vulgar and inappropriate,” Finlayson said he was satisfied it was not racially motivated.

Given the judge was unwilling to classify saying “let’s burn the Jew” and then actually grabbing a Jew and burning her hair as anti-Semitic, perhaps he should be praised for also stating that the school culture in which this kind of incident was commonplace was was “unhealthy and dark and there’s no place for it in society.”

The victim claimed the incident “changed her world upside down.” She needed therapy to deal with her fears.  She also believes that the people in the school blamed her for making a big deal of the incident.

The now-17 year old defendant was not given any prison time. Instead, the court ordered him to serve 18 months of supervised probation. He also has to seek out counseling, write a letter of apology to the victim and perform 75 hours of community service work, according to the Winnipeg Free Press. In an earlier stage of the prosecution, the defendant pleaded guilty to assault with a weapon.

This story was corrected to reflect that the incident itself occurred in 2011, not 2010, as originally reported. The sentencing and judgment about racial motivation was entered on January 2, 2014.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: canada; letsburnthejudge
So I guess Judaism is not a religion in Canada. After all, their Human Rights Act clearly states:
3. (1) For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.

Or maybe setting a girl's hair on fire is not a discriminatory practice.

1 posted on 01/06/2014 4:28:24 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Maybe they should burn the judge. After all, he did say it’s not racism.


2 posted on 01/06/2014 4:29:52 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: markomalley

Leftists and Muslims are joining forces against God and civilization.


3 posted on 01/06/2014 4:30:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: markomalley

It’s time for judges and juries to punish actions, not motivations. The girl would have been just as burned regardless of the motivation.


4 posted on 01/06/2014 4:32:50 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: markomalley

Don’t they have a game in Brooklyn called “punch the Jew” or something like that.


5 posted on 01/06/2014 4:34:28 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley
A Jew is of the tribe of Judah. I wonder how many of us are Israelites from the lost tribes.

I'm guessing a lot of Freepers are.

I would be proud to be one of that family!

6 posted on 01/06/2014 4:35:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: markomalley

So if I go to Winnipeg,go up to a black person,hold a lighter to his hair,and say “Let’s kill the ********”, it’s okay?

I’ll be darned.

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7 posted on 01/06/2014 4:44:08 PM PST by Mears
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To: markomalley

wow


8 posted on 01/06/2014 4:46:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: markomalley; fanfan; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Judges are not an ethnic group, either. Thanks markomalley.


9 posted on 01/06/2014 4:47:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“It’s time for judges and juries to punish actions, not motivations.”

That’s always been my opinion. Motivation might be a factor to consider in sentencing, but it shouldn’t determine whether some extra charge is filed or not. There’s too much room for private interpretation and abuse in that kind of system.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 4:49:20 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: markomalley

That guy needs a few tough Yids to pay him an after school visit. Are there no tough Yids in Winnipeg? JDF types, that is. And I am one so I can use the term, so everyone relax.


11 posted on 01/06/2014 4:50:17 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Mears

I think in order to mount the same defense, you’d have to hang out with the guy and call him a ****** for a while first. Then, you could claim it was just a nickname, like this kid’s lawyer did.


12 posted on 01/06/2014 4:51:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: markomalley

The demographics of the perp might explain a little bit.


13 posted on 01/06/2014 4:52:19 PM PST by sayfer bullets (“I didn’t leave the [---] party, the [---] party left me.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: markomalley
I wonder how he'd rule if they'd said "let's burn the judge?"
14 posted on 01/06/2014 5:00:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: markomalley
A high school student grabbed a Jewish female classmate, held a lighter to her hair and said out loud, “let’s burn the Jew,” but a Canadian judge concluded that the incident was “not racially motivated.”

Never,never,*ever* would I vote guilty on *any* "hate crime" charge.In this case it's clearly a crime to have grabbed the girl.It's also a crime to have held a lighter to her head.Regardless of his motives he had *no* justification for having done so...so,IMO,he deserves very serious punishment.Perhaps a year or more if this his first offense...*much* longer if it isn't.

15 posted on 01/06/2014 5:01:01 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: markomalley

Was the assailant Moslem?


16 posted on 01/06/2014 5:04:23 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I wonder how he'd rule if they'd said "let's burn the judge?"

Or maybe "let's burn the idiot."

17 posted on 01/06/2014 5:05:36 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Pharmboy

Some guys that are talented practitioners of Krav Maga? Yeah, they should pay the punk a visit and make sure the lesson learned is unequivocal and unforgettable.


18 posted on 01/06/2014 5:06:23 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: freekitty

the girl’s fault her hair caught on fire.

But officer, the punk got in the way of my bullet! If he wouldn’t have been standing there....


19 posted on 01/06/2014 5:13:05 PM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: markomalley
"So I guess Judaism is not a religion in Canada."

Maybe the judge is just a total liberal idiot. Sadly that's an all-too-common reason in the United States.

20 posted on 01/06/2014 5:14:00 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: markomalley

Judges need to be elected. Period.


21 posted on 01/06/2014 5:14:07 PM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

That would do quite nicely, sir. History has clearly shown that people like this malevolent a-hole can NOT be reasoned with.


22 posted on 01/06/2014 5:16:20 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: markomalley

Jews can encounter difficulty getting anti- discrimination laws enforced by dept of justice or upheld in so e USA courts too to protect them from, sometimes, quite blatant and harmful acts. This problem is not confined to Canada.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 5:19:41 PM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: markomalley

It wasn’t racial, it was religious. And the difference, under Canadian law is...?


24 posted on 01/06/2014 5:23:23 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pharmboy

Need to export the boy perp to Williamsburg, Brooklyn and then loudly call out “Chaptzem!” He would feel appropriately punished after that, guaranteed.


25 posted on 01/06/2014 5:33:53 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SunkenCiv

Far too many judges these days seem to be of a different SPECIES...namely ..Judgemus Pathologicimus


26 posted on 01/06/2014 5:37:23 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: markomalley

Nazi Judge. Must be a Liberal.


27 posted on 01/06/2014 5:41:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BenLurkin
We are repeating history.
28 posted on 01/06/2014 5:41:59 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: sayfer bullets

$10 says he’s a Muzzie.


29 posted on 01/06/2014 5:46:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: EinNYC

That would def work. Ha! Going back to the OLD days...


30 posted on 01/06/2014 5:56:18 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: markomalley

Callie Travers: Just what do you consider going too far? Isn’t forcible rape in broad daylight a misdemeanor in this town? /HPD


31 posted on 01/06/2014 5:58:00 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: markomalley

So now that this idiot judge has had his say it’s time for this girls family to have theirs. If the perp is found burned to death in an alley, so be it.


32 posted on 01/06/2014 6:01:04 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: markomalley; All

The worldwide epidemic of Anti-Semitism is growing

Guaranteed if this was done to an Islamic student, all hell would break loose

In saner times, this judge would have been removed from the bench


33 posted on 01/06/2014 6:20:41 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: BenLurkin

Roger that comment.


34 posted on 01/06/2014 6:26:09 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: markomalley

When she burns the school down (or the Winnipeg courthouse) can she claim it was just an “impulsive teenage action”?


35 posted on 01/06/2014 6:27:54 PM PST by montag813
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To: Pharmboy
Actually, it still works. They caught and surrounded this anti-semitic perp for the cops to haul off recently. He had been throwing watermelons at people, yelled “I hate Jews!” and knocked a Chassidic boy’s hat off.

Here, they caught a bank robber and held him for the NYPD:


36 posted on 01/06/2014 6:29:24 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Nice follow up, thanks.

They should get on a plane and travel to Winnipeg.


37 posted on 01/06/2014 6:31:21 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: BenLurkin

leftists and muslims can, and will, make hell on earth. the only people left will be them, and both groups hate and blame everyone else for their own problems, so naturally they’ll continue decimating each other.


38 posted on 01/06/2014 6:44:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RoosterRedux
A Jew is of the tribe of Judah. I wonder how many of us are Israelites from the lost tribes. I'm guessing a lot of Freepers are. I'd be proud to be one of that family!

I would be proud to be in that family too...

39 posted on 01/06/2014 7:32:42 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: SeminoleCounty

Jews are not a race, neither are Muslims, Christians or Hindis. Therefore, it can’t be a racial motivation.


40 posted on 01/06/2014 8:17:02 PM PST by CPONav
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To: yarddog

41 posted on 01/06/2014 8:19:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GOPJ

There are DNA scanning services which advertise they can figure one’s ancestry. Since individual Jews often accepted Christianity and left the modern mainstream Jewish community because of it, their bloodlines melded into the general population and are said to show on such scans.


42 posted on 01/07/2014 12:12:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: freekitty

At least they can sue the kid and his parents.

The judge has already shown himself to be an ignorant, anti-semitic bastard and the defense lawyer has shown himself to be a jerk.

Sometimes actions speak louder than the law. Sometimes the law is an ass. At other times, the dispensers of the law are asses.

Time for Canada to look into itself before it criticizes the US for our stupids.


43 posted on 01/07/2014 12:54:46 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: arthurus

I’d like to know that as well.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 4:49:07 AM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: CPONav

There are several authors and journalists who have chosen to leave Canada to avoid prosecution for simply publishing stats on islamic terrorism.

Think Mark Steyn.


45 posted on 01/07/2014 4:53:00 AM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: Boogieman

I’ve always been of the opinion that we should have mounted up and laid low all those pushing for thought crime punishments back when thought crime was being pushed as something to be punished.

Give them an inch...


46 posted on 01/07/2014 9:07:46 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

It seems they are getting more stupid each day.


47 posted on 01/07/2014 9:22:12 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Most be all of that Global Warming affecting the judge’s brain. Or maybe he is just a stupid antisemitic bastard, or both.


48 posted on 01/07/2014 3:00:55 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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