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Pope: 'Authentic' Islam opposes violence
WND ^ | 11/26/2013 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/06/2014 5:22:44 PM PST by FR_addict

Pope Francis’ insistence in his new apostolic exhortation that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence” is drawing negative reviews from some analysts of the religion who point to the Islamic holy book’s calls to wage war against nonbelievers.

“How does he know that? When did he become an imam?” wonders columnist Pamela Geller.

She notes as an example the Quranic passage that states: “So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks.”

“At a time when Christianity worldwide is under siege by Islamic jihadists, the leader of the Catholic Church claims that the Quran teaches nonviolence,” Geller writes. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: authenticislam; islam; koran; mohammed; pope; popefrancis
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To: .45 Long Colt
Don’t blame Christians for the Inquisition. Only heaven knows how many true Christians were slaughtered at the hand of Rome’s Inquisition.

The Catholic and Christian-haters abound here. Anything you say to them is merely fodder for their hatred.
I've always thought it so ODD to "hate" a church, a faith or God. I can only pity those people because of how they were brought up to hate our Creator, His Son and His Church.
The Church HAD/HAS to be manned by humans so error HAS to take place. But to bash the institution so is beyond the pale. They are to be pitied.

81 posted on 01/06/2014 6:29:18 PM PST by cloudmountain (.)
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To: cloudmountain

That’s nice that they chose to be so cordial. I’d peg your boss as heterodox.


82 posted on 01/06/2014 6:29:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
First, you meant to say fallible.

Second, check your catechism. Ex Cathedra isn't enough. In this case, even if he were speaking Ex Cathedra it wouldn't be a sufficient guarantee. Infallibility is only claimed when he speaks Ex Cathedra on a matter of doctrine or morals applying to the whole Church.

Statements about Islam could never be considered infallible under the doctrine.

83 posted on 01/06/2014 6:31:33 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Violent Buddhism would be news to me...
84 posted on 01/06/2014 6:31:37 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: pax_et_bonum; Boogieman
My guess is because there are Catholic communities stuck “behind enemy lines” in muslim lands, so he wants to placate them.

In which case, he should have said nothing, rather than lied.

85 posted on 01/06/2014 6:35:35 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: Starstruck

When the papacy promotes social justice instead of the Gospel, this is what happens.


86 posted on 01/06/2014 6:41:03 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I think the essential point is that Buddhists and Christians have committed murder. The difference in both cases is that when a Christian or Buddhist murders someone, he is violating the principles of his religion, whereas when a Mohammedan does so, he is affirming it.
87 posted on 01/06/2014 6:41:12 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: FredZarguna; Boogieman

In which case, he should have said nothing, rather than lied.

***

Maybe so, but, then again, keeping open an avenue for dialogue can be important.


88 posted on 01/06/2014 6:47:21 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Believe it or not, I found MOST Muslims over there "heterodox." They didn't care; why should they? They were secure in their faith and what I believed in was my business.

My boss was a very simple, plain, kind, humble middle-aged man who didn't know how to read or write. Since he didn't he had honed his memorization abilities to the max.
He wasn't unusual. We lived there FIVE years and I worked with 30 Saudi men. We ate in the restaurants, shopped in the dusty little sort-of-towns and met MOSTLY decent folks...just like ANYWHERE else on the planet.

We DID get over to Manama, Bahrain, and saw TONY BENNETT. He sang his song for us: I Left My Heart in San Francisco (my home). I duly snerfed and brought out the hanky!

True story:
One day (in Ras Tanura, Saudi Arabia) I came from a Women's Group meeting and we were all given a little toy, just a silly table gift. So, the next morning I gave it to Ali (one of the workers in our Recreation Department) to give to his kids.
WELL! Two days later he came to me in despair. He said that my gift to him had started a war in his home. BOTH of his little daughters wanted the toy! They WOULDN'T share. He tried giving it to his son...but his son didn't want it. He asked me for help.

I went to the other gals in our Women's Group and asked for another of the gift. Whew. I got another one and gave it to Ali. He was MOST grateful--war over.

89 posted on 01/06/2014 6:47:46 PM PST by cloudmountain (.)
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To: 9YearLurker

This pope will be the False Prophet who introduces the Beast to the World.


90 posted on 01/06/2014 6:48:45 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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Uggh this pope is awful


91 posted on 01/06/2014 6:49:15 PM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Starstruck

You won’t. The Catholic Church does not rely on just the Bible. Is it in the KJV that a religion has to be so?


92 posted on 01/06/2014 6:52:07 PM PST by stanne
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To: FR_addict
The Pope choose the name Francis for a reason.

http://www.wheaton.edu/BGC/Equipping-Corner/Hot-Off-the-Evangelism-and-Missional-Presses/What%20St%20Francis%20Can%20Teach%20Us%20about%20Christian%20Witness%20to%20Muslims

Remember it was a Pope (along with Reagan and Thatcher) who brought down the evil Soviet Empire.

93 posted on 01/06/2014 6:52:35 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: .45 Long Colt

And how many Catholics were slaughtered at the hands of the English?


94 posted on 01/06/2014 7:00:04 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: FredZarguna

From Wikipedia:

Ex cathedra: In connection with papal infallibility, the Latin phrase ex cathedra (literally, “from the chair”) has been defined as meaning “when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, (the Bishop of Rome) defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.

Speaking on matters of doctrine or morals applying to the Church is IMPLIED in the term.


95 posted on 01/06/2014 7:02:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Prophet of Doom:

Thanks for posting this book name, it looks terrific.
96 posted on 01/06/2014 7:02:27 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: FredZarguna

RE: First, you meant to say fallible.

I meant to say NOT infallible, but your statement is just as correct.


97 posted on 01/06/2014 7:04:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: HiTech RedNeck

RE: you meant to say, I think, fallible. even in the Roman Catholic system.

I meant to say NOT INFALLIBLE, but fallible is just as correct.


98 posted on 01/06/2014 7:05:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wikipedia isn’t the catechism. Ex Cathedra means nothing more than from the office. Even if I accede to your definition (I don’t) under your usage, he can never speak Ex Cathedra concerning the doctrine or morals of another religion.


99 posted on 01/06/2014 7:06:58 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: FR_addict

He is a Jesuit Commie......that’s why.


100 posted on 01/06/2014 7:10:10 PM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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