Posted on 01/07/2014 12:42:38 PM PST by Baynative
And that means a bureaucracy and a lot of businesses that will grow if the bureaucracy grows.
If you try to do without legislators and do it all on line your citizens will spend all day on the computer occupied with public matters.
I could recommend, though, that a new state put its capital all the way at one end of the state, so that most of the citizenry could get as agitated about politicians way over there in the new capital as they were about the politicians way over there in the old one.
It's gone Jim...
I sure miss the Sierra country, but the rest of it...
Much the same way that Chicago politically controls Illinois, you will find that there will be various large cities in each of these “new” states to run over the concerns of the rural/conservative areas of the state. San Francisco will control whatever state it is a part of, as will Los Angeles, San Diego, and the Riverside/San Bernardino/Ontario metro area.
The only way to for conservative voices to be heard is to “exclude” the large metro areas from at least half of these new states. Does anyone believe a state with a Democrat Governor, Senate, and House is going to go for that?
That would mean 10 more Senators from California and ten more electoral votes.
That will make us closer to 57 states. Although when Hussein mentioned 57 states, he was referring to the 57 Islamic states. A faux pax like when he referred to his Muslim faith.
The Far North was always ignored and if they made a big enough fuss they probably could have gotten out years ago (Pearl Harbor got in the way the last time).
Then the problem was that San Francisco and Los Angeles couldn't stand to be in the same state -- and there were all those water issues.
But the Central Valley and the coast in between SF and LA probably didn't want to be thrown in with either megalopolis either.
Now San Jose doesn't want to knuckle under to San Francisco or San Diego to Los Angeles. Ergo, six states.
But I can't see this going anywhere, even if a balance between political parties could be achieved. Every part of the country has its own dramas, and the rest of the country isn't going to let California's (or Texas's) take center stage.
How about Sierra for their "North CA," Sequoia for their "Central CA," and Euphoria for their "Silicon Valley"? Then perhaps change "West CA" to Southern California (there's already a university by that name in L.A.) and their "South CA" to Alta California. Or change their "South CA" to Pacifica and then "West CA" could just be plain "California."
The idea for Euphoria comes from David Lodge's novel Changing Places where he has that as the fictional name for a state that includes Berkeley (which he calls Plotinus...one obscure philosopher replacing another).
Well, as a Kern Cty resident, I want nothing to do with LA County or their idiocy in the “new” West Ca..so that makes us even.
Given the makeup of this map, I suspect there will be folks on both sides who won’t agree to it as presented. Look at Orange County absorbing most of LA...those folks would probably cry foul as well...
Fagaragua! Once I got it rolling off the tongue- it was/is funny as heck! YOU are to be commended WayneS for demonstrating true freeper genius with sizeable amounts of humor tossed in for good measure. There’s got to be a few rump rangers out there that would find it down right funny too. Clever titles to the rest of the state as well. Please approach the lectern and offer a few words to our audience members and afterwards I’ll present you with your well deserved awards.
"Sequoia" is good, though hard to spell. "Mohave," "El Dorado," "San Gabriel," and "Temecula." Sure, a tree, or mountain, or desert, or butterfly or whatever.
Someone suggested "Reagan" for Southern California, but that's not going to happen. "Coronado" was also suggested for the Far South, but you know that's too much like "Colorado."
I like this a lot!
I’d be a new resident. It looks like both my favorite places are splitting apart from Sacramento and SoCal.
I think “Sequoyah” was a proposal for what became Oklahoma.
Coronado didn’t actually get into California...Cabrillo did. (Cabrillo was long thought to be Portuguese, but I read a recent book that argued that he was Spanish—the other belief was based on one document which was probably misinterpreted).
Serra is probably too Catholic a name. Indian activists would claim that the Franciscans enslaved their ancestors.
Reagan wasn’t a California native. Nixon was. I guess he is kind of controversial too. At least there has been no effort to make January 9th a national holiday (his birthday).
Maybe “Dystopia” would be a good choice.
If the earlier proposal to make a new state out of the 7 northern RED counties were to happen the influx of people wanting to live there would create a roaring economy in no time.
and my guess is you have no idea how the dems would collude to divide the state so it would be forever democratic.
I’ve seen the by county votes, I know lots of California is red, but the population centers flip the vote. All it will take is for every new state to have a large population center and ta-da, liberal reps and senators.
“All it will take is for every new state to have a large population center and ta-da, liberal reps and senators.”
I guess you need to take a look at a map of California. 80% of the land area of the state has NO major population centers! In fact, Alpine County has something on the order of 1200 residents in spite of the fact that it’s a big county land-wise. But fear not, none of it is likely to happen.
Thanks for the ping. If California were to be split into 5 or 6 states, that would be interesting. It would be completely disruptive politics. But I think that it would be similar to the 2001 recall of Governor Davis leading to Ahnold becoming guvernator. It would become surreal, with no real positive result worth mentioning other than the fact this region would have 10-12 senators rather than just 2.
If that happened, four of the six new states would go red.
I’m not wild about the idea of my idiot neighbors getting to pick 10 more Senators. We’ve done enough damage picking two of the dimmest bulbs to ever wander into that chamber.
sure, it’s all hypothetical, never going to happen.
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