Posted on 01/07/2014 2:16:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind
With his softer message on gay and divorced families, the pope has figured out what the Republicans haven’t grasped—you’ve got to tone it down if you want to keep a modern flock.
When the Catholic Church eclipses the Republican Party on social policy, it’s time to start looking skyward for frogs. Yesterday, when the Vatican released the pope's latest statement offering a softer tone toward the gay community than pontiffs in the past, it suggested that the Catholic Church may have figured out what the Republican Party hasn’t yet grasped—that the fading of the institution’s flock can only truly be addressed by reversing some of the fading norms driving the flock from the fold.
And so you have, just to pick one example, failed Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli saying about gay rights, “I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.” Versus Pope Francis saying, “If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"
Now Pope Francis has gone a step further, expressing compassion for gay families as well as families of divorce, both of which are perennial Republican targets in their puritanical and antiquated push for conservative morality. “How can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?” the pope reportedly said. “We must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them.” Or voting! Step aside, Reince Priebus. The pope’s words offer some wisdom for the sagging and outdated GOP.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
The Pope wants to be able to preach the gospel to every creature, as he has been commanded. You can't get the butt bandits or carpet munchers to LISTEN if your tone is not conciliatory.
The Pope knows his duty is to preach.... and God's prerogative is to damn those that refuse to listen.
I think the Pope can speak for himself. And has on numerous occasions. One quote does not prove a case, but he hasn't provided just one quote.
That didn’t take long for these people to usurp the Pope for the promotion of their sinful lifestyle.
Well I sure wanna know what Sully Konehead thinks about an institution she knows absolutely nothing about, but despises anyway, and I SURE wanna hear her interpretation of what this Pope says.
Like watching someone grasping at dust particles in a sunbeam, seeking some simple, reasonable kindness the Pope utters into a liberal cause. Ick.
What the bible can teach leftists-
It rewards investment
If one doesn’t work one doesn’t eat
The poor will always be with us
Charity is good.
Sexual sin is condemned
Coveting your neighbors wealth is bad.
The idea that the GOP so hard-edged in its messaging is so out of whack as to question the author’s sanity. The GOP has NO messaging, hard-edged, soft-edged or round. The GOP is the only political party in the world that believes that no messaging is the way to win elections. They couldn’t argue their way out of a soaking wet paper bag.
The Pope can go pound sand!
That’s a man, baby!
See posts 18 and 19.
I saw The Daily Beast and stopped right there. Then I looked for the “barf alert” and it wasn’t there.
This Marxist from Argentina, and Time’s man of the year, might teach Catholic Democrats and Catholics in the GOP something, but for us conservative Protestants who know their Bible, he can go pound sand.
“And so you have, just to pick one example, failed Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli saying about gay rights, “I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.” Versus Pope Francis saying, “If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?”
The lady is a dimwit. Both Cuccinelli and Pope are correct. The Pope says that in the event (very rare) that a gay person is willing to seek the Lord with good will and wants to give up his gay lifestyle, then the Pope is not going to reject him out of hand.
Here's what happened: Pope Francis was talking to Catholic educators about the need to reach children who are living in sad, distorted situations. As one of his examples, he lamented this little girl who told her teacher she was sad because "my mother's girlfriend doesn't love me."
So the Pope says we have to find a way to address this little girl's suffering because of the lovelessness of the lesbian household she's growing up in, and the media says he's therefore "taking a softer tone" and supporting gay marriage or something?
When Bergoglio/Francis is on record as saying that gay marriage is a diabolical arrangement?!
Jimmy Akin, as usual, has something sensible to say about this(Link)
“This Marxist from Argentina, and Time’s man of the year, might teach Catholic Democrats and Catholics in the GOP something, but for us conservative Protestants who know their Bible, he can go pound sand.”
If conservative Protestants knew their Bible, they’d not have to deselect verses they don’t like, or entire books. And of course, they’d be Catholics.
:-) I agree entirely with you. I’m just having fun to cope with all these pope postings on FR.
I agree. When I saw “Sally Kohn” was the author, I did not put much credence in her writing. And, anyway, who is she to write about the Catholic Church anyway? With her name, I doubt very much that she is Catholic or even Christian. I could be wrong.
Whatever - her thought process is that the church ought to operate like a political party, that is, take a poll and see where the wind is coming from, then set your dogma accordingly.
What great faith ever survived by pandering to the whims of the people?
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