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Twenty years later... The "THWACK" heard around the world.
youtube ^ | 11 Jan 14

Posted on 01/10/2014 9:28:49 PM PST by Drew68

Debating this on another forum... What do you all think?

Prior to her infamy, was Tonya Harding not the best skater in the world?

History of the Triple Axel


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KEYWORDS: anniversary; iceskating; nancykerrigan; olympics; tonyaharding
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To: Valpal1
I always had a soft spot for Tonya, because she tried hard to escape the sewer she was born into and got pretty far before the grifters around her pulled her back down into it.

Well said. It is not easy escaping from a "trailer trash" upbringing. Tonya almost made it out of that world but unfortunately she kept too many low-rent types around her and they eventually did her in.

During that time, I had a soft spot for Tonya and figured Nancy to be a bit of an elitist snob, so even though the scumbags around Tonya did wrong by clubbing Nancy with a collapsible baton (they originally spoke of assassinating her), I did kind of root for Tonya to kick Nancy's butt in those Olympics.

That said, many people assume that the Kerrigan girl had a privileged life and came from wealth. However, that is not true either. She came from a working class background and has a little "white trash" in her family as well. Case in point is her loser drunk of a brother, while living in his parents basement (never a good sign for a 45-year-old man), was accused of killing their father in a fistfight while in a drunken rage. He was acquitted of manslaughter, mainly due to the fact that the father was not in good health to begin with, but ended up doing some hard time for assault and battery.

Nancy escaped that world by marrying a wealthy yuppie-type. No Jeff Gillooly for Nancy!

Anyway, that was the one and only time in my life I ever had any interest in figure skating. Before and since, it's always been mostly a sissy thing for me. But during that brief period of time, it was like figure skating flirted with elements of pro wrestling and NASCAR.

41 posted on 01/11/2014 12:14:23 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Drew68

Guilty, beyond peradventure of doubt!

Release her, without a stain on her character!


42 posted on 01/11/2014 1:56:20 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Well, hey, at least Tonya doesn’t have a stache and green moss growing between her teeth. But there is still time.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 2:03:17 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: bobby.223

Yes, Harding was the one with the wedding night video.

I use Tonya Harding as sort of an analogy to our current government and new businesses. But Harding was held accountable where the government just keeps on taking out knees.


44 posted on 01/11/2014 2:16:53 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: informavoracious

They are all impressive athletes, but my own favorite from that era was the German skater Katarina Witt. So graceful and swift.


45 posted on 01/11/2014 2:20:15 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Didn’t I see a couple of triple Lutz’s in there? The T-Axel jump starts with skates forward, the Lutz jump starts from a position skating backward (1/2 rotation shorter).

-Frank


46 posted on 01/11/2014 3:05:27 AM PST by thepoodlebites (and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.)
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To: Drew68

Tonya Harding was athletic but she had no grace. No beautiful flow of motion.
Instead of ballet-like graceful skating to the next jump she rushed to the next trick.
She was not pleasing to watch.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 3:59:46 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: BlackVeil

Katerina Witt. I’m shaking thinking of her.:) My favorite, by far.
Pretty, powerful, graceful. The complete package.


48 posted on 01/11/2014 4:09:56 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Drew68

I watched this Documentary, SHARP EDGES (1986) about TONYA, a few weeks ago. It is quite good, following her while training and competing for her first Nationals. She was 15. She had two coaches who cared about her and were essentially her Mothers. Her own Mother is interviewed and is a piece of work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GhzZOlP7MA


49 posted on 01/11/2014 5:48:42 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: SamAdams76

Nancy married her manager. His ex-wife said Nancy broke up their marriage.


50 posted on 01/11/2014 5:51:47 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Yes, thanks for saying it. “Lack of grace”, I was trying to put Hardings skating into words.
51 posted on 01/11/2014 5:58:45 AM PST by Ditter
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Now peggy Fleming was a different story as I remember.

She was graceful and beautiful. It was at the end of the era of women in women's sports, and the beginning of the "girl" age in women's sports.

Anyway, I lost interest in the Olympics after the Cold War ended. I don't know why I was interested in the first place. I think the media hype affected me.

52 posted on 01/11/2014 6:12:58 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GeronL
>“She’s redeemed herself over the years”<

Are you sure about that?

She saved a woman's life.

53 posted on 01/11/2014 6:16:49 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

The IOC, NBC and whoever the governing body of figure skating is should still be paying Harding royalties for what she did for the sport and the olympics.


54 posted on 01/11/2014 6:20:43 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Drew68
Indeed, she was a hard girl, a smoking, drinking, ass-kicking trailer trash hussy. But watching some of those "pre-clubbing" videos makes it clear that she was also a world-class athlete.

More often than not, "world-class athlete" goes hand-in-hand with "world-class thug", "world-class druggie", and "world-class a-holes" of numerous sorts.

Long gone are the days when competitive sports contributed anything positive to character development.

55 posted on 01/11/2014 6:32:25 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Bon of Babble
Couldn’t believe there’s a movie coming out about this event. Didn’t Harding descend into wrestling or maybe even mud wrestling? (my neighbor says porn too, but I’m not so sure about that).

Tonya Harding now has a regular gig as a commentator for the Tru-TV show "World's Dumbest."

56 posted on 01/11/2014 6:36:45 AM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Pan_Yan
The IOC, NBC and whoever the governing body of figure skating is should still be paying Harding royalties for what she did for the sport and the olympics.

On January 5th, 1994, nobody gave a damn about women's figure skating. By January 7th, the whole world knew what a triple axel was and parents were lining up to sign up their daughters in skating classes. The women's skating event would become one of the most watched competitions at Lillehammer.

Does Harding deserve credit? To this day she claims innocence of knowing an assault on Kerrigan would take place (I don't believe her). Maybe these royalties should be given to Jeff Gillooly.

So where is Jeff Gillooly today? Well, he's changed his name to Jeff Stone and, surprising to no one, he's selling used cars in Clackamas, Oregon.

Finding Jeff Gillooly, 20 Years Later

57 posted on 01/11/2014 8:06:30 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Maceman
Tonya Harding now has a regular gig as a commentator for the Tru-TV show "World's Dumbest."

I do like that show!

58 posted on 01/11/2014 8:12:27 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Maceman
Tonya Harding now has a regular gig as a commentator for the Tru-TV show 'World's Dumbest.'

Tru-TV sucks.

The two deserve each other.

59 posted on 01/11/2014 8:21:27 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Now peggy Fleming was a different story as I remember. She was graceful and beautiful.

Dorothy Hamill said that when she was a child, Peggy Flemming snubbed her when she asked for an autograph, something Dorothy said she promised never to do.

60 posted on 01/11/2014 8:26:13 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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