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Obama plot: Black out '40% of U.S. power supply'
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/14/2014 | unknown

Posted on 01/14/2014 7:05:44 AM PST by rktman

Now a new Environmental Protection Agency rule on power plants requires a massive reduction in greenhouse gas emissions and threatens to block any new coal-fired energy facilities because they cannot hope to meet the new standards without using unproven and cost-prohibitive technology.

Concerned individuals may email the EPA with their comments at a-and-r-Docket@epa.gov. Comments MUST reference Docket ID: EPA-HQ-OAR-2013-0495.

The rule is currently in the public comment phase, but free-market energy advocates see the coal industry clearly within the Obama administration’s crosshairs.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ecowackjobs; gangreen
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Comment line is open. That is if comments from the peons will have any attention paid to them. Kind of like turning the clock back 50 years when most of those living in poverty didn't have electricity or running water. Poverty stricken today is only having one 60" flat screen. Oh, the huge manatee. One of the very few things the "lyin' king" told the truth about. I don't recall him ever saying that if you like your electric bill you can keep your electric bill.
1 posted on 01/14/2014 7:05:44 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Is it me or is that headline see a little...racist? LOL!


2 posted on 01/14/2014 7:06:55 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: rktman

With the amount of natural gas we have coal fired plants are no longer needed and completely ridiculous.

That being said, let market forces work this out, not the EPA.


3 posted on 01/14/2014 7:07:57 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: rktman

This thing in West Virginia - was the toxic chemical released a chemical that the greenies had insisted on to make coal more environmentally acceptable? I haven’t heard anyone say why this treatment was being used.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 7:10:18 AM PST by Mercat
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To: TheRhinelander

Oh....Really?

What does it cost to shut down a coal fired plant and start up a natural gas facility?

Oh....wait.....The EPA won’t authorize construction of any new natural gas facilities....

Your turn....


5 posted on 01/14/2014 7:13:01 AM PST by G Larry
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To: Mercat

It was said that the chem used/leaked was required to scrub the coal to reduce sulpher emissions. In other words, it is an EPA requirement.


6 posted on 01/14/2014 7:16:05 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: TheRhinelander

A coal-fired plant can store 30 days worth of fuel in a big pile. If you depressurize the natural gas line you can make a whole state go dark in minutes. Fuel diversity is a national security issue.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 7:19:00 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rktman

He could use the Clinton method:
http://www.timeswrsw.com/V032997.HTM


8 posted on 01/14/2014 7:22:14 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Mercat

“I haven’t heard anyone say why this treatment was being used.”

Probably because some biggie campaign donor has a company that makes it...


9 posted on 01/14/2014 7:23:44 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: TheRhinelander
With the amount of natural gas we have coal fired plants are no longer needed

You know not what you speak of. To make that forced change in less than a decade or two would skyrocket electric and heating bills. It would cripple this country. It would make this Obama recession seem like the glory days of economic bliss.

10 posted on 01/14/2014 7:23:48 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TheRhinelander
Why don't we wait till a few more gas fired units come on line ?
Not all coal plants can just “switch” to gas.
11 posted on 01/14/2014 7:25:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: sasquatch

The W. Va. chemical is used in certain coal wash plant applications, not power plant use.


12 posted on 01/14/2014 7:27:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Mercat

What is 4-methylcyclohexane methanol?

The compound involved in the West Virginia chemical spill is used to rid coal of impurities before it is burned to generate power.

“Short version – it is used in removing some sulfur from coal,” David Bayless, director of Ohio University’s Ohio Coal Research Center, wrote in an e-mail to the Monitor. “That is a separation process ... usually done at the mine before the coal is shipped to the utility to burn.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Energy-Voices/2014/0110/West-Virginia-chemical-spill-What-s-4-methylcyclohexane-methanol-video


13 posted on 01/14/2014 7:28:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I’m taking about new construction, not refitting existing plants.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 7:30:56 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

See 13. I am confused unless you forgot the /s.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 7:34:58 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Well, they couldn’t very well say “Hispanic out ‘40% of US power supply” now could they? LOL! That would be too blatant.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 7:41:25 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: sasquatch

The chemical is used in “froth flotation” cleaning of the very fine particles of coal. The company I once worked for used water only Dutch State Mines hydrocyclones for the 1&1/4 X 1/4 inch coal and Hyle and Patterson classifying cyclones for the 1/4 X 28 mesh coal. Our wash water was reused via a very large static thickener with almost no makeup water. Chemicals and heavy media (ground iron ore) are used in other wash plant designs for various coals, financial limitations and other reasons.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 7:41:28 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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Great! Let's double the cost of electricity.

That, along with ObamaCare, shutting down most of the coal jobs, and extending unemployment compensation to about forever should give another big boost to the economy!

18 posted on 01/14/2014 7:50:19 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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It will come upon us like a thief in the night while we are paying attention to something like Mylie Cyrus or a sports figure using drugs. Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Liberty
19 posted on 01/14/2014 7:51:45 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Gritty

Well, thank God that we’ve turned the corner, the economy is recovering and unemployment rates are plummeting towards zero. HUH? Not from where I’m sittin’. (And no, it ain’t in the basement wearing my PJ’s. LOL!)


20 posted on 01/14/2014 7:53:00 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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