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Navy’s new carrier so large the crew need an app to find their way about (Royal Navy)
London Evening Standard ^ | 14 January 2014

Posted on 01/17/2014 9:27:24 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Little Pig

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

As a former MG owner, I CONCUR!


41 posted on 01/18/2014 6:37:06 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: M Kehoe

Sigh. There is something so completely wrong with that concept.

I am sure it just me being old and crotchety.

Of course, that would prevent any of their sailors walking down into the brig unintentionally while exploring as I did...


42 posted on 01/18/2014 6:38:58 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel
if they can't figure out painted deck and frame numbers, will they walk right off the ship if their app tells them to "turn right here" ???
43 posted on 01/18/2014 6:40:12 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: rlmorel
There is something so completely wrong with that concept.

Yep, like when somebody loads some malware.

5.56mm

44 posted on 01/18/2014 6:51:35 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: tanknetter

Well said, my friend..I was shocked when I read the expected crew size. MY first thought was damage control..who’s gonna do it..also..the CVs of WW II did not face the ship-killing missiles of today..


45 posted on 01/18/2014 7:21:43 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: M Kehoe; Chode

I can see it now...they call General Quarters, and out come the iPhones...


46 posted on 01/18/2014 7:57:36 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel
LOLOLOL!!!!! sh!t, glad i wasn't drinking my coffee when i read that one...
47 posted on 01/18/2014 8:10:27 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: cva66snipe; ken5050

Part of the idea is not to get hit - that in most of the situations in which these carriers are likely to be used, that they are unlikely to be attacked by a force that can damage them.

But, yes, if they are hit, damage control is an issue because of the crew numbers - the carriers will not be as likely to survive in such a situation as US carriers would be.

But what people have to remember, is that if the RN insisted on crew levels like those of the USN, the British Government would not have funded the carriers. It’s a political reality. The bottom line is the Royal Navy is more powerful with these carriers than without them - and to get them they had to be willing to come up with a way to have them with less people.

It’s better to have some capability in reality than to hold out for a theoretically better solution you’ll never get.

These Carriers don’t match US standards - but they are at least in the same ballpark again, for the first time in decades and should match anybody else in the world. As the UK is unlikely to find itself at war with the US, that’s not bad.


48 posted on 01/18/2014 5:38:31 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice to see Australia getting back on such a list.


49 posted on 01/18/2014 5:39:37 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
Post WW2 the worst carrier incidents of mass causality were Flightdeck fires. True there are Hi-Caps now but some aircraft due to magnesium must be tossed over. One carrier fire I can't remember which flooded all the way down to the pump room. I'm thinking maybe #1 PR. That is 6 decks down from the hanger bay. Automation is fine when it works. I've seen the ship loose steering several times. Thankfully there was enough manpower for a steering room watch to be in the machinery room. Also even though AVORD may be automated I doubt the actual loading onto the plane is.

Another factor is ships company is always better trained at DC because they live there even in port back in CONUS. Getting DC quals done properly takes some time. Carriers are highly Air Conditioning dependent. On a carrier the AC&R shop alone would need 12 minimal to function. Without it you might as well not get underway because the electronics are going to go down. Nothing beats a well trained Roving watch to keep things going smooth. Rover has senses cameras do not.

The UK right now will be the U.S. condition in a couple more decades staying on the current political and military policy course.

50 posted on 01/18/2014 6:07:37 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Kozak

Maybe they never go in three-quarters of it.


51 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:27 AM PST by Vanders9
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