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How It Might All Go Down: When the very survival of Israel is at stake, Israel will not hesitate...
Arutz Sheva ^ | January 9, 2014 | Dr. Joseph Frager

Posted on 01/18/2014 5:02:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone tell Jarrett to get some flowers ordered. LOL


21 posted on 01/18/2014 6:40:49 PM PST by healy61
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To: F15Eagle

O God, Do Not Keep Silence

A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.

83 O God, do not keep silence;
do not hold your peace or be still, O God!
2 For behold, your enemies make an uproar;
those who hate you have raised their heads.
3 They lay crafty plans against your people;
they consult together against your treasured ones.
4 They say, “Come, let us wipe them out as a nation;
let the name of Israel be remembered no more!”
5 For they conspire with one accord;
against you they make a covenant—
6 the tents of Edom and other Ishmaelites,
Moab and the Hagrites,
7 Gebal and Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Asshur also has joined them;
they are the strong arm of the children of Lot. Selah
9 Do to them as you did to Midian,
as to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon,
10 who were destroyed at En-dor,
who became dung for the ground.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb,
all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
12 who said, “Let us take possession for ourselves
of the pastures of God.”
13 O my God, make them like whirling dust,1
like chaff before the wind.
14 As fire consumes the forest,
as the flame sets the mountains ablaze,
15 so may you pursue them with your tempest
and terrify them with your hurricane!
16 Fill their faces with shame,
that they may seek your name, O Lord.
17 Let them be put to shame and dismayed forever;
let them perish in disgrace,
18 that they may know that you alone,
whose name is the Lord,
are the Most High over all the earth.


22 posted on 01/18/2014 6:42:02 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: yarddog

Israel does not exist through her political or military might. Despite being the eight hundred pound nuclear gorilla of the middle east her resources are not even close to enough to have brought about or maintain her existence.

She will not fall until God permits it, and at that time any of us who are alive will be completely preoccupied with our own survival.


23 posted on 01/18/2014 6:49:58 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

When, not if but when, they strike it will be sudden and devistating. It will be many pronged attack, rockets from subs, aircraft, stand off weapons, even commandos on the ground. It will all be over in 18 hours. They will be ready with a second strike if anything is missed. This summer is my guess—June? or July? That is my guess.


24 posted on 01/18/2014 7:25:31 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Zenjitsuman

>>The fact that the USA is refusing Israels request for our bunker buster bombs and planes to deliver them while at the same time giving Iran 8 billion dollars and the ability to continuing enrichment tells you someone in Washington has decided Israel is expendable.

No question about it.<<

And yet the Jews are ever so calmly discussing what Israel will do. Why in the Sam Hell aren’t all of you marching on Washington? Do you expect the Christians to stand up for you when you won’t even get off your ass?


25 posted on 01/18/2014 7:26:32 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You are correct, IMO.


26 posted on 01/18/2014 7:34:46 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, having bunker buster bombs would make it easier to guarantee total destruction of some of Iran's highly fortified nuclear reactors buried deep in the mountains.

Do you supposed nucs could be considered bunker buster bombs?

27 posted on 01/18/2014 7:42:36 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Blood Moons are coming soon.


29 posted on 01/18/2014 8:11:27 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Zenjitsuman
The fact that the USA is refusing Israels request for our bunker buster bombs and planes to deliver them while at the same time giving Iran 8 billion dollars and the ability to continuing enrichment tells you someone in Washington has decided Israel is expendable.

Israel has a lot of discarded Soviet artillery tubes to make bunker busters with, they'll figure a way to deliver them to where they are needed.

30 posted on 01/18/2014 8:16:25 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: tet68

Nothing will cost them a war, God has his plan in place for that country.


31 posted on 01/19/2014 4:22:38 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Israel will not hesitate to surprise American policymakers and military experts. The last time this happened was not 1967, or 1976's Entebbe. It was September 6, 2007, when Israel destroyed the Syrian plutonium reactor... American military experts had thought this was improbable, and some said – impossible. In September, 2012, the Center for Strategic and International Studies reported that "Israel does not have the capability to carry out preventive strikes that could do more than delay Iran's efforts for a year or two.” Former CIA Director Michael Hayden was even more pessimistic, saying that airstrikes capable of seriously hurting Iran's nuclear program are beyond Israel's capacity. Nothing is beyond Israel's capacity. That has been the lesson of Israel's existence since its inception.
The keys to success are developing contingencies and drill,drill,drilling for the mission. The IAF carried out the first contingency in the 1967 Six Day War, destroying more than 90% of enemy air forces on the ground and cratering the runways to eliminate takeoffs of anything missed during the first sorties. They literally overflow Egyptian positions in the Sinai multiple times a day until they got their timing down exactly. Reportedly the Egyptian commanders on the ground took to setting their watches by the overflights. Then, kaboom. I'd be surprised if the IAF strikes the nuke facilities directly, at least as the first step. And that is all I'll speculate. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
32 posted on 01/19/2014 5:30:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The presumption and examples in the article point to air power. The facts point elsewhere.

It seems to me that based on various predictions in say 2009, the Iranian efforts have already been delayed by several years. The precise delay is unknown. The delay was not accomplished by aircraft delivered bombs, but by severe action on the ground at disbursed locations.

Scientists were exterminated. The centrifuge controls were destroyed. Under ground facilities in at lest two locations were exploded.

These are what is known. We don’t know what else is unknown. What we know is that Iran still doesn’t have a bomb.


33 posted on 01/19/2014 5:43:55 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: F15Eagle

They are surely setting up the physiological mindset for the time aren’t they.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 5:50:03 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fella; F15Eagle; metmom; ExTexasRedhead
The Blood Moons are coming soon.

Indeed, they are. The first one is in April of this year - Passover.

Passover begins 14 April and ends on 22 April.

Pray for Israel.

35 posted on 01/19/2014 8:08:35 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: bert

Well said.


36 posted on 01/19/2014 8:25:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trying to figure out what Israel will or will not do is similar to contemplating your navel. All these blurbs of “ISRAEL SHOULD DO THIS” or “ISRAEL SHOULD DO THAT” is a complete waste of time. With Israel’s ability to spy on everybody, they probably know ahead of time, when another country will attack them. Now, will Israel allow their country to be attacked? DON’T THINK SO.


37 posted on 01/19/2014 8:34:42 AM PST by gingerbread
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To: F15Eagle

Israel stands alone in the world. Except for the prayers of the faithful. But the LORD has not forgotten Zion. He also will deal with Her enemies. And Iran will only get a far as they are destined.


38 posted on 01/19/2014 9:49:34 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing is beyond Israel's capacity. That has been the lesson of Israel's existence since its inception. Also, no surprise is out of Israel's reach, nor should it be. Yes, having bunker buster bombs would make it easier to guarantee total destruction of some of Iran's highly fortified nuclear reactors buried deep in the mountains.

There are NO VICTIMS in Israel...

None.

It's a country of fighters.

If Iran tries to shove Israelis into a dangerous corner Israel will come out fighting. Iran will be blown to kingdom come..

40 posted on 01/19/2014 11:52:53 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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