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Proposed medical marijuana rules force choice: Your pot or your gun (Illinois)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 1/21/14 | Robert McCoppin

Posted on 01/22/2014 2:24:27 AM PST by Libloather

Patients who want to qualify for medical marijuana in Illinois would have to be fingerprinted for a background check and pay $150 a year — and give up their right to own a gun, state officials proposed Tuesday.

The plan outlines how adults who have any of 41 specified medical conditions, such as cancer, AIDS or complex regional pain syndrome, may apply to get a patient registry identification card to purchase medical pot.

The proposed rules are the first in a series of parameters expected to be outlined over the course of the year to govern how medical marijuana can be legally grown, sold and purchased. The Illinois Department of Public Health will take public comment on this set of rules until Feb. 7 and then submit them to a legislative panel for approval by the end of April.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; marijuana; medical; pot
They could do the same for trans fats.
1 posted on 01/22/2014 2:24:27 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

So, in order to get treated for a medical condition, one has to get a permit, pay $150 to the government (who is not part of the treatment), and then submit to fingerprinting and turning in your weapons?

I guess these Illinois people don’t read the newspaper. Especially the item about the President saying marijuana was no worse than alcohol. What’s next? Have to have a license to buy alcohol, give up your right to own a gun?


2 posted on 01/22/2014 2:58:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

Have you ever tried smoking trans fats?


3 posted on 01/22/2014 3:06:20 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Libloather

I watched a very close friend go through chemo hell while being treated for colon cancer. Pot was the best relief he could get from side effects. It wasn’t his idea and he didn’t go to it willingly, but it worked. It takes a special kind of asshole to conceive of tying relief to a constitutional right. Think of it as a bureaucrat showing up at a house fire and holding back the firefighters until you give up your right to vote.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 3:33:46 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Libloather

I’m not in any way a fan of marijuana, but I am disgusted by those using it as yet another lever to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 4:14:02 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
I’m not in any way a fan of marijuana, but I am disgusted by those using it as yet another lever to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

The DEA was a willing participant in Fast and Furious, and they knew it was being done to manufacture evidence that would be used to justify more gun control regulations.

6 posted on 01/22/2014 4:16:13 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Libloather

This is yet another example of just how important our 2nd amendment rights are - not just to us, but to the people out there salivating over finding any excuse to deny us that right. You have to ask yourself, just why is it so important, so vital, that as many of us as possible (apparently preferably in their eyes that all of us) be denied that right and disarmed? This has gone well beyond isolated instances of “oh that’s just stupid” in regards to gun control to “wait a minute, why is this such a common theme in so many discordant places and issues?” I don’t generally go in for conspiracy theories, but this does seem like gun control is being pushed from many many quarters.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 4:27:26 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Libloather

The federal gun control act of 1968 denies those addicted to marijuana or narcotics the ability to purchase firearms. This takes it a step further and grabs existing firearms. Note that ill-annoy already requires a license to even own a handgun (foid).


8 posted on 01/22/2014 4:51:32 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Libloather

9 posted on 01/22/2014 5:04:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Libloather
Such is the case in any state that has legalized marijuana for medical or recreational use. Choose to participate and you lose your legal ability to purchase a firearm from an FFL.

In states such as Illinois that have FOIDs (Firearm Owner's ID Card,) they can revoke those cards if they so choose and you lose your legal ability to possess firearms in that state.

10 posted on 01/22/2014 5:23:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: EandH Dad

This is why it’s so important to get pot rescheduled, or repeal 18 USC 922. Federal law prohibits possession of guns by “unlawful user[s] ... of any controlled substance.” Pot is schedule I and thus there is no lawful use under federal law.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 7:31:06 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Pollster1
I’m not in any way a fan of marijuana, but I am disgusted by those using it as yet another lever to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

You have perfectly captured my thoughts on this.
12 posted on 01/22/2014 7:39:24 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: mvpel

Rescheduled?! By what authority did the Fed. create these laws? By what authority does the Fed. get to determine ‘lawful use’?

Disappointing to see such clap-trap on a ‘Conservative’ board.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 8:39:57 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: i_robot73

The law is what it is regardless of the kind of usurpation and Constitution-shredding that brought the law to that point, and pointing out the simple reality of the law is not “clap-trap.”

Federal agents with machine guns, grenades, and concrete cages fervently believe that they DO have the authority to determine “lawful use,” Constitution be damned, and anyone who ignores that fact does so at their own peril.


14 posted on 01/22/2014 9:40:41 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Back when it was scheduled, the human endocannabinoid system was unknown to medical science.

Now we know there are medical uses for cannabis and even mainstream scientists have been forced to recant their previous drug war propaganda and admit it.

The current federal policy denies 2A rights to millions of Americans based on what we knew about medicine when Nixon was President. It's past time for it to be rescheduled and the law allows either the executive or legislative branch to do it (through different processes). Obama won't do it. That leaves Congress. Not holding my breath.
15 posted on 01/22/2014 3:43:16 PM PST by publiusF27
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To: mvpel

The DEA’s own Administrative Law Judge ruled 25 years ago that marijuana should be removed from Schedule I. He was promptly ignored.


16 posted on 01/23/2014 4:56:51 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

The did the same thing to Robert Shafer.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 4:59:53 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

From 1972 no less. There was one other Federal commission earlier that recommended decrim/legalization as well. They kept getting an answer they didn’t want, so they finally stopped asking the question. Which is why the States had to step in.


18 posted on 01/23/2014 5:07:02 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Libloather
There are only a handful of legal marijuana users who still get their drugs from the federal government under a program ended in the '80s. Other than those individuals, there are no legal users of marijuana.

I wonder what that means for cannabidiol? It's a derivative product, meaning you can't make it without first possessing the scary, illegal plant.

GA Bill To Legalize Cannabidiol Oil

A Republican lawmaker in Georgia is planning to unveil a bill to legalize a medicine derived from marijuana after paying a visit last week to a local 4-year-old girl whose severe seizure disorder could be mitigated by the substance.

"I'm an unlikely champion for this cause. I've never done drugs. Never smoked marijuana in my life," state Rep. Allen Peake (R-Macon) told The Huffington Post over the phone. "But I had a visit with Haleigh Cox, the daughter of a constituent of mine. The result of seeing the pain and suffering she goes through, having 100 seizures a day, and seeing a potential remedy through cannabidiol treatment, I was compelled to move to action."

Peake told HuffPost he is currently drafting a limited-scope bill that would legalize cannabidiol oil in the state of Georgia to help children like Haleigh cope with their seizures. Cannabidiol is a non-psychoactive component of the marijuana plant...

19 posted on 01/24/2014 5:01:22 AM PST by publiusF27
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To: mvpel

NOT pointing out the illegality/Unconstitutional nature of any ‘law’ (let alone fighting the same) is the reason the Republic is DEAD.

What other areas of the Constitution have you the same mind-set? Abortion? Anti-gun? Welfare? ACA? They are all ‘law’, are they not?

‘Just following orders’...Yeah, I know how that works out.


20 posted on 01/24/2014 5:58:00 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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