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Arizona governor visits Mormon Gilbert temple open house
Deseret News ^ | Jan. 22nd | LDS Church News

Posted on 01/22/2014 8:31:42 PM PST by Ripliancum

GILBERT, Ariz. — Arizona's Gov. Jan Brewer described The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' Gilbert Arizona Temple as "a beacon of hope, faith and love to all those who come to this sacred building and its beautiful grounds. It is a special place ... a place of spiritual refuge in this troubled world.

"This temple is also a testament to those who came before you. With faith, fortitude and devotion to God, Mormon pioneers settled much of this state, including what would become the town of Gilbert."

Gov. Brewer made these comments after she visited the temple on Thursday, Jan. 16, two days before the public open tours were scheduled to begin. Elder William W. Walker of the Seventy and executive director of the Temple Department, hosted Gov. Brewer and other special guests, among whom were government, religious, civic, education and community leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arizona; conservatism; lds; mormon

1 posted on 01/22/2014 8:31:42 PM PST by Ripliancum
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To: Ripliancum

Sounds great, I’ll be there in a few months and would like to sit in on a service, we’re welcome aren’t we?


2 posted on 01/22/2014 8:42:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Its Arizona. It would be incredibly stupid for a governor here not to show somw respect to such a large voting block. And, last I checked, the mormons aren’t the reason I worry whether or not my kids are safe at a park, or my car is safe downtown. They are good neighbors. I don’t have much in common with their beliefs, but I don’t mind the majority of their values.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 8:52:35 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Ripliancum

Nice. Don’t worry about the naysayers.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 8:52:44 PM PST by dixjea
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To: ansel12

Why of course everyone who has a good boy pass can get in, you should apply. It’s not hard everyone should do it.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 8:54:43 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Ripliancum

I guess not many of these latter-day Arizonians like Brewer have read much of Zane Grey’s novels written in the early 20th century about 19th century Mormon activity in the American West.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 8:55:35 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ansel12
The last I knew , during an "open House " anyone may attend
, be it a memeber , non-member , or a muzie infidel .
I believe you would be welcomed ,.. although not converted !
7 posted on 01/22/2014 8:58:16 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Ripliancum

Had a fellow that worked for me on one of my project teams. He is an incredible asset, a great family man and has hard working as any individual I have worked with before.

He invited me to the open initial completion of his temple a while back but a conflict arose and I didn’t get to make the visit. I found out later that I was the only person he invited to a visit. I considered the invitation a great compliment as he knows I am centered where I am, but invited me to share in his devotion to his faith.

His tradition and faith are well outside mine. I am very glad he is my countryman and friend.


8 posted on 01/22/2014 9:01:42 PM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Greenpees

>> the mormons aren’t the reason I worry &etc

Well said. They are not part of “Thy kingdom come”, but neither do they define the problem.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 9:07:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; WilliamRobert

Interesting.

I think you know the open house won’t be going on in a few months, and William casually admits that ID is required proving that a Mormon gives 10% of all their earnings to Mormonism before they can be temple members.

Even average morons can’t be temple Mormons unless they are of the most devoted (and give at least 10% of their income to the religion).

That is why ID is issued and has to be shown before entering and being a member of the inner sanctum and the secret ceremonies.

Even Ann Romney’s parents were forbidden entrance to watch their daughter married to Mitt, young Ann, who had been personally coached and converted by Mitt’s powerful father (and Ann’s governor) before they could marry, as Mitt was evading the draft in France.


10 posted on 01/22/2014 9:13:19 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Greenpees

Lol, strange response to post 2.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 9:15:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
ansel12:" Even average morons can’t be temple Mormons unless they are of the most devoted (and give at least 10% of their income to the religion)."

Since you used the term " morons ", I assume that you purposely meant it.
You may attent the "Open House" regardless of your religious beliefs .
In order to attend a religious service, I believe you must hold a 'temple reccomend '.
I believe your bigotry may be showing !!

12 posted on 01/22/2014 9:29:18 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Actually the word “morons, was a mistype that I didn’t catch.

You do keep ignoring my posts, and this is twice that you pretend I was talking about the open house.

Read the actual post, ID is issued and required of Temple Mormons, it is proof that they have given 10% of their earnings to the religion.

Try actually reading post 10, you will learn some things.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 9:37:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
Sorry , I thought the article title was : "Arizona governor visits Mormon Gilbert temple open house "

Please excuse me for not staying on topic
I am not ingoring your posts
I am ignoring your BIGOTRY There is a difference between the two .
or as you originally stated : " Read the actual post.. "

14 posted on 01/22/2014 9:47:52 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

It seems that you just want to vent with some personal attacks.

Read post 2 again, your response to it didn’t make sense.

You seem to be posting without even reading the posts that you are responding to.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 9:52:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

They take a test. Among the questions is “Do you tithe 10 percent?” and “Have you abstained from caffeine for the past six months?” All you have to do is answer correctly.

I knew a Mormon who drank cokes and ate chocolate and her Bishop told her it was okay because those things didn’t exist when Joseph Smith wrote the requirements.

Remember the ad from the 80s? “Seven-Up. The un-cola. No caffeine. Never had it. Never will.” I’m sure it sold well in Utah.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 9:56:59 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

The Bishop can require proof if he doubts you, passing the interview and standards is only done by as little as 15% of Mormons, and those who pass are reexamined every two years, and the ID must be renewed twice during that period since it is only good for one year.

Normal Mormons who don’t pay enough, or have other failings, can only attend the plain church buildings, and they get a lower form of heaven, and can’t they become Gods themselves.

Harry Reid is a Temple Mormon, he and Mitt are planning to become Gods, with their own planet to rule over.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 10:07:20 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Perhaps a little knee jerk on my part. I thought you might be posting negative about a reasonably good people. I misunderstood if that wasn’t the case. I guess my only point is, whatever the Mormons rules. I’ve never been unhappy being their neighbor, coworker or friend. We’ve got so many valid things to worry about when it comes to the direction of our nation.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 10:13:39 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: ansel12
ansel12 regarding your post #2 : "I’ll be there in a few months and would like to sit in on a service, we’re welcome aren’t we? "

I doubt that there will be religious services during an "Open House ".
I will ask that they "keep the light on for ya " ( Just like Motel #8 ) , but I doubt that I have any 'juice' there.
Good luck to ya if you miss the "Open House " as mentioned in the article title.

19 posted on 01/22/2014 10:14:34 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: ansel12

Perhaps a little knee jerk on my part. I thought you might be posting negative about a reasonably good people. I misunderstood if that wasn’t the case. I guess my only point is, whatever the Mormons rules. I’ve never been unhappy being their neighbor, coworker or friend. We’ve got so many valid things to worry about when it comes to the direction of our nation.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 10:16:25 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: VerySadAmerican

There seems to be some doubt about the Coke and chocolate taboo, many sources say it is OK.

President/Pope/ Prophet/etc., David O. McKay, was said to have been a drinker of Coke.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 10:17:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Greenpees
We’ve got so many valid things to worry about when it comes to the direction of our nation.

Should you be wasting all this time on a frivolous Mormon thread when there is so much else of national importance, to post about on other threads?

22 posted on 01/22/2014 10:20:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Are you on drugs, drinking?

There will not be an open house in a “few months”, read the article, this propaganda show for Temples only lasts a few weeks, and is already currently under way.

Read the posts, and read the article, read something.


23 posted on 01/22/2014 10:25:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
ansel12:" Should you be wasting all this time on a frivolous Mormon thread when there is so much else of national importance,
to post about on other threads?

THank you for recognizing that you have made this a frivolous Mormon thread .
Since you have so much intellectual knowledge of LDS dogma , what is the purpose of the 10 % TITHE ?
Do you know ?

24 posted on 01/22/2014 10:25:30 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: ansel12
ansel12:" There will not be an open house in a “few months”, read the article,
this propaganda show for Temples only lasts a few weeks, and is already currently under way.

Then you already know the answer to your question ( Post #2 ), and have wasted time " on this frivilous Mormon thread "
You are right ; you are too Sophomoric to waste time on.

25 posted on 01/22/2014 10:30:15 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

LOL, I made it frivolous?

You thought that a meaningless blurb about a politician attending a local opening of a church building was a deep meaningful story?

You sure haven’t been posting that way, your posts are all nonsense and personal attacks, void of anything useful or informative.

You should tell us why you are so angry, you aren’t a Temple Mormon so it isn’t that.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 10:39:00 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
(post #22 )Ansell12 :"Should you be wasting all this time on a frivolous Mormon thread when there is so much else of national importance, to post about on other threads? "

ansel12 : " LOL, I made it frivolous? " You called it !!
You named it "friviolous"
and you own it
I didn't !!

Now answer the question about the purpose of tithing 10%
and skip the "ad hominem" arguement !

27 posted on 01/22/2014 10:49:10 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

My posts have been the only informative substantial posts on the thread.

For someone who isn’t Mormon or that knows anything about the religion, you sure are a raging, angry, hostile poster.

How about you you get less personal, and try to get involved with the thread itself?


28 posted on 01/22/2014 10:54:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
That building is ugly beyond believe. It looks like something an evil overlord would use against Superman.

.


29 posted on 01/22/2014 11:00:57 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Just think, that is a God factory, it produces Gods for a polytheistic religion.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 11:08:42 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
ansel12:" For someone who isn’t Mormon or that knows anything about the religion, you sure are a raging, angry, hostile poster."

Now answer the question about the purpose of tithing 10%
and skip the "ad hominem" arguement !
Can you even answer the question ??

31 posted on 01/22/2014 11:34:49 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: ansel12

a place of spiritual refuge in this troubled world.
____________________________________

The Gov doesn’t know what Mormon temples are used for...


32 posted on 01/23/2014 1:07:34 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ansel12

Reid already thinks he’s a god.


33 posted on 01/23/2014 1:57:30 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Your posts only get goofier.

If there is something that you want to say about Mormonism, or temple recommends, or becoming Gods, or buying one’s way into a better class of after life, why don’t you spit it out.


34 posted on 01/23/2014 1:59:29 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I think they all do, Beck and Romney are also Gods in waiting.

Beck is a temple Mormon, as is Bishop Romney.


35 posted on 01/23/2014 2:21:56 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Jeff Chandler

belief


36 posted on 01/23/2014 7:06:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: ansel12

No more than you did. Hey, have a good evening!


38 posted on 01/23/2014 5:43:04 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Greenpees

You were the one who came on the thread (and stayed), to keep posting to people not to spend time on this thread, not me.

I consider my time well spent here, educating people on the religion created by Smith, from Vermont.


39 posted on 01/23/2014 6:14:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Where’s the Cross?

/jk


40 posted on 01/23/2014 6:21:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: ansel12
There seems to be some doubt about the Coke and chocolate taboo, many sources say it is OK.

The injunction is actually against "hot drinks", as I recall. I have Mormon co-workers with temple recommends who eat plenty of chocolate and drink Coke and Pepsi.

41 posted on 01/24/2014 10:15:11 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay; ansel12

Actually, it depends on the interpretation of those in certain geographical areas. I’m no longer a member, but my experiences can offer some insight as to how confusing it can be.

When I was a member in Nevada, it was understood to mean caffeinated beverages of any kind. Hot or cold, didn’t matter. No caffeine.

When I was in South Carolina, it was coffee and tea...we walked into an LDS function and saw Mello Yello, Mtn Dew, Coke, Pepsi, etc. offered as beverages.

If one were to read it correctly, it is against “hot drinks”, but in actuality, the whole thing started as a gag against the womenfolk who were complaining about the menfolk spitting tobacco juice on the floors during their meetings...

David Whitmer, one of the three witnesses to the Book of Mormon. The following appeared in an interview with David Whitmer which was published in the Des Moines Daily News: “...quite a little party of the brethren and sisters being assembled in Smith’s house. Some of the men were excessive chewers of the filthy weed, and their disgusting slobbering and spitting caused Mrs. Smith (who, Mr. Whitmer insists, was a lady of predisposed refinement) to make the ironical remark that ‘It would be a good thing if a revelation could be had declaring the use of tobacco a sin, and commanding its suppression.’ The matter was taken up and joked about, one of the brethren suggesting that the revelation should also provide for a total abstinence from tea and coffee drinking, intending this as a counter ‘dig’ at the sisters. Sure enough the subject was afterward taken up in dead earnest, and the ‘Word of Wisdom’ was the result.” (The Des Moines Daily News, Saturday, October 16, 1886)

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_wordofwisdom.html


42 posted on 01/24/2014 10:28:52 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I used to visit the Temple in Mesa every Christmas (the lights are spectacular!), but they won’t let non-Mormons go everywhere. I’m sure Gilbert’s is the same.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 10:53:46 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Even regular Mormons are not allowed to worship in the temples of the elites.


44 posted on 01/24/2014 12:05:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

My mother and her siblings from elite. Have a nice day!!


45 posted on 01/28/2014 2:33:30 AM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside (Tea Party Anarchists? Freedom = Anarchy to communists.)
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside

Huh?


46 posted on 01/28/2014 11:46:39 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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