Posted on 01/24/2014 7:06:54 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
OK, I’ll gladly settle for “don’t bring ANY immigration bill up”.
Karl Rove the architect says its those crazy Tea party guys doing that,
He says he hired Paul Ryan to get them under control so the GOP can take back Washington. Says to keep mentioning 'the Ryan Plan'
It would make more sense for everyone involved to try to pass immigration reform whether it is amnesty or enforcement in 2015 with more Senate control.
The longer it is delayed the better the chance is to stop it. It was harder for them to try to pass amnesty after the Boston Bombing not before it.
The bill will be just as terrible with the Ayotte’s and McCainiacs needing to approve the lack of enforcement.
Whether they get an immigration bill on Obama’s desk, Steve King becomes the spokesman for the base of the GOP on immigration. I thought they wanted to silence him. Wanted to stop him baiting Boehner and La Raza.
If every little comment offends Hispanic voters why don’t the RINOs stop trying to push an amnesty backlash?
The debt ceiling “fight” (lol) is saying “we are this far in debt now lets make sure we can get even deeper in debt!!”
They knew it was toxic to stop their agenda. Even the most liberal democrats aren’t as into open borders as Paul Ryan. They wanted Zerocare and card check.
Rahm Emmanuel was whipping Blue Dogs into voting with Tancredo on immigration back in the day.
What could be unlikely is if for some reason Berni Sanders, Pryor,Hagan, Manchin and some Republicans get enough votes for 41 to block Boehner-Reid’s amnesty bill if they make it appear to be a second class citizen bill.
Berni Sanders just wants more Democrat voters. He doesnt want to import additional foreign workers. He only did the Youth Jobs Amendment because Schumer was desperate for 70 votes.
The plan is to put McCaul & Jackson-Lee fake border bill out on the floor. 1417...
Anything with Jackson-Lee’s name on it should be trashed immediately. Texas does itself a disservice sending this tramp to congress.
Why couldn’t he just say.......let it die in the house and never mention it again. It never happened. That’s what Harry Reid does.
They don’t do that because they want it too. If it screws Americans they are for it.
Many in GOP want immigration reform done before 2012 primary so they don’t have to debate it then and risk that election,
for similar reasons as Kristal says to avoid it now.
If the House passes any of the amnesty bills currently planned, they can forget about control of the Senate and probably lose some seats in the House! Talk about shooting themselves in the foot!...geez!
Interesting coming from a notorious Amnesty Liberal like Kristol. Obviously sees GOP suicide w Illegal Alien Amnesty
So Kristol is against Amnesty, huh?
The Neocons will need a new poster child..
Bull crap, you are wrong. FedGov monthly debt servicing bill could more than be covered by the monthly tax revenues. I don't know who you are but you are spreading liberal talking points.
You're full of < expletive deleted >. Troll much?
Holding politicians accountable is trolling? Calling them on their bait-and-switch nonsense is trolling?
You might want to check your dictionary on that.
I’ll say it again - anyone who votes for a bloated spending bill, then pretends they’re against it when the check actually comes due, is not a conservative. And they think you’re a gullible fool.
So Kristol is against Amnesty, huh?
The Neocons will need a new poster child..
The debt ceiling only limits the ability of the Treasury to pay for the spending Congress has already authorized. Refusing to raise the ceiling does not do anything for either our deficit or national debt, although crass politicians would love for us to confuse the two and believe that it does; that way they can talk tough while still loading their districts and let projects with pork.
The debt ceiling is not the place to fight out-of-control wasteful spending. Spending bills are the place to fight out-of-control wasteful spending. The “Farm” Bill is coming up soon - that’s ripe for the attacking.
I will attempt one more time to enlighten you. Taking 2011 as an example the DEFICIT = 1.6T. Most people can relate to monthly expenditures so we will do that, it works out to 1.6T/12 = 133B/month. This debt must be paid. It can easily be paid with INCOME already coming into the Treasury ever month. Monthly revenue = 190B/mo. Thus reaching the debt ceiling would not prohibit the servicing of the debt. GET IT YET?
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