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To: Libloather
My husband passed away from lung cancer. The last months of his life were made comfortable because he had ALL the morphine he needed to feel absolutely NO pain.
Some cancers are not curable and with the elderly sometimes the treatments are deadly. However, with pain, the answer is usually morphine, the "miracle" drug.

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2...3...4...

Well, I will be NOW expecting some FReeper to cite the exceptions s/he knows about which make my statement moot, untrue or not "good enough" or that s/he knows people who get NO relief from morphine or that it REALLY is no miracle at all.

Any moment now. Mr.s. Gainsayer?? Yoohoo...

12 posted on 01/25/2014 5:34:32 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
You really don't get it do you? Who made the decision, your doctor or your government?

Was the decision based on tax payer dollars or was it a doctors professional opinion?

21 posted on 01/25/2014 5:49:00 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: cloudmountain

I’m very glad morphine worked for your husband. It’s really a gift from God and yet so many people abuse it. I hope no one says anything negative about your post.


32 posted on 01/25/2014 5:57:43 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cloudmountain

Morphine is a blessing for those suffering extreme pain.

It is my opinion that Stage 1 or 2 cancers have a chance for a cure, but spending half a million dollars on chemo for a person over 75 with stage 4 or 5 cancer is almost always devastating, because even with a couple of months in remission the cancer re occurs shortly thereafter. Too much suffering with false hope, and I have seen that.

Better to let someone have that last six months in peace with their family. Of course it should be between them and their doctor, and not up to government to decide.


33 posted on 01/25/2014 5:58:10 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: cloudmountain
im with you on this!...even some Freepers cant except the inevitable...How much compassion is involved to keep a loved one hanging on for “our” benefit instead of theirs???...To them that don't get it yet..We're all gonna die!...

GET OVER IT!!

(Glad you dared to write “your” opinion!...Mine too..but now we can be a minority of a minority together... Bring ‘em on!

40 posted on 01/25/2014 6:03:34 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: cloudmountain

morphine is great. you just don’t want them giving you so much they euthanize you to save money. which places have done to people.


49 posted on 01/25/2014 6:12:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cloudmountain

What you’re describing is exactly what Obama meant when he spoke about reducing the cost of prolonging grandma’s life with surgical procedures: “Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.”

The latest pc-think among academic physicians has successfully transformed many of them into non-thinking tools of the left.

Let’s assist the leftists in understanding that if their agenda had any value whatsoever they wouldn’t have to disguise or sugar coat it.


55 posted on 01/25/2014 6:18:20 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: cloudmountain

it seems there was a taboo on morphine treatments for pain in past years and maybe it was because of abuse

do you know what i am talking about it seems there was a huge debate about (20) + - years ago about pain management and the refusal of health providers to apply necessary medications for such

and anyone who says morphine doesn’t help ha ha ha

neither does the methadone


56 posted on 01/25/2014 6:18:56 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: cloudmountain

What you’re describing is exactly what Obama meant when he spoke about reducing the cost of prolonging grandma’s life with surgical procedures: “Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.”

The latest pc-think among academic physicians has successfully transformed many of them into non-thinking tools of the left.

Let’s assist the leftists in understanding that if their agenda had any value whatsoever they wouldn’t have to disguise or sugar coat it.


57 posted on 01/25/2014 6:19:20 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: cloudmountain

I’m allergic to narcotics.

Would you dispatch NICE with a bullet?


80 posted on 01/25/2014 6:53:41 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: cloudmountain

Having decided that it’s ‘OK’ to deny one treatment (chemo) to someone based on age, why on earth do you think they would be obligated to provide another treatment (morphine)?

Having broken a trust (that they will treat you), why wouldn’t they break a trust (that they will treat you)?

Death panels are OK as long as they provide adequate morphine?

Don’t you think there are lots of sickos who populate the coming death panels that will giggle at the idea of denying some good conservative ANY treatment. Based on age. Or prior condition. Or whatever.

If you don’t think the kind of person who get their jollies hurting someone will be the same kind of person who will populate the ‘decision panels’ you haven’t paid attention to human nature or that of people who populate bureaucracies. And they will probably get giant (censored) just thinking about the pain your loved one is in.


93 posted on 01/25/2014 7:36:28 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: cloudmountain
s/he knows people who get NO relief from morphine or that it REALLY is no miracle at all.

I can tell you for a fact morphine does not relieve pain for me. It does make the wall crawl however.

Heroin may in fact actually work. A bill was introduced 20 years or so ago that would allow heroin to be used with cancer patients, but the democrats shot it down. Would have cost nothing because they would have used confiscated drugs.

137 posted on 01/26/2014 1:02:27 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: cloudmountain

I don’t disagree that morphine is a wonderful drug for pain, but I have learned from the liberal media and our president that apparently marijuana is the new “miracle drug” that needs to be prescribed for, well, everything!


141 posted on 01/26/2014 4:32:28 AM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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