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U.S. hospitals hit with shortage of intravenous saline
Yahoo news/Reuters ^ | Jan 28, 2014 | Susan Kelly

Posted on 01/29/2014 2:38:39 AM PST by Innovative

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Tuesday it is working with the three manufacturers of intravenous saline solutions commonly used to hydrate hospital patients to address a shortage caused by a spike in demand.

To cope with the shortage, healthcare providers are using substitute products such as oral hydration fluids or smaller IV saline bags with slower drip rates when appropriate, said Bona Benjamin, director of medication use quality improvement for the American Society of Health System Pharmacists.

"We have heard from our members all over the country that the shortage is serious," Benjamin said. "People are able to cobble together enough of a supply to get by day to day."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fda; healthcarerationing; hit; hospital; hospitals; intravenous; medicalcare; medicationshortages; obamacare; rationing; saline; shortage; socializedmedicine
This is probably not going to get much attention -- when in fact it's a predictor for things to come as obamacare gets implemented.

More people flock to hospitals for minor things, because "it's free" with all the subsidies, and since doctors and drug manufacturers can't get decent profits they will limit the supplies or go out of business totally, as there will be no incentive to provide medical care. It is going towards socialized medicine, where the government will be paying doctors fixed salaries, providing the medications, buying them at fixed prices and companies will go out of business because they can't sustain themselves, so now everything is "free" just not available.

1 posted on 01/29/2014 2:38:40 AM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Unless there is an outbreak somewhere that we’re not hearing about why the need for all the hydration?


2 posted on 01/29/2014 2:42:04 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Innovative

This is just one item being reported. I know there are shortages of Tamiflu (for influenza) in some areas. I agree, it will only get worse.


3 posted on 01/29/2014 2:42:08 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: gattaca

I think I recall the same shortage of Tamiflu a couple of years ago ....


4 posted on 01/29/2014 2:44:37 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Innovative

Only the federal government could cause a shortage of WATER and SALT.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 2:52:14 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Innovative

It’ll reach a point where you turn to your local marijuana connection in the neighborhood...and task them to provide legit medical services or legit drugs. Your dealers...Juicy and McPot look at you in amazement. Really? You need services like this? Well...sure.

So Juicy will talk to Juan and Yung-Jim, and a week later....there’s a new trailer over in the seedy part of town in “Avon Trailer Park”. Quietly, some Chinese doctor has been sneaked into the US, and for $30....he examines you. He write a one-line prescription, which you hand to McPot, and gets a delivery from Panama once a week, and you pay him $50 for legit drugs that normally cost you $150.

Eventually, some dimwit from Princeton University writes up a 700-page book on the economics of new America....where he quotes Juicy and McPot on various economic theories that they’ve put into place, and why they are so successful. The dimwit wins a Nobel Prize, and some President wants to implement the legalized Juicy/McPot system to save America from the evil Obama Healthcare Law.


6 posted on 01/29/2014 2:52:44 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

‘It’ll reach a point where you turn to your local marijuana connection in the neighborhood...and task them to provide legit medical services or legit drugs. Your dealers...Juicy and McPot look at you in amazement. Really? You need services like this? Well...sure.”

I wish I could say you are just being sarcastic, but unfortunately you may well be an accurate predictor of things to come.


7 posted on 01/29/2014 2:55:20 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

How can there be a spike in the need for saline...?

No national emergency, no national disaster....

Must be those greedy manufacturers / S


8 posted on 01/29/2014 2:56:51 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

“How can there be a spike in the need for saline...?

No national emergency, no national disaster....”

Just think if there were... Just goes to show you how fragile our medical system is and Obamacare will kill it off completely, killing any incentive to provide medical care and medication.


9 posted on 01/29/2014 3:00:28 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: pepsionice

Funny, but so much truth in what you say. Like what happened during Prohibition.


10 posted on 01/29/2014 3:09:11 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: raybbr

It’s got electrolytes.


11 posted on 01/29/2014 3:13:12 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Innovative

I work in healthcare, and the shortage of barium we went through was a canary in a coal mine in my view. Due to the overwhelming cost of legislative and regulatory overview, every barium plant in this country was closed because they became unprofitable.

So the only one left open in North America was in Mexico, and guess what happened there? They had to close that one due to unsanitary conditions. I don’t recall if it was permanent, but...it is just one thing.

With the climate making it unlikely someone will be able to make a profit, we see what happens. And we will see more of this.

Yesterday, Barium.

Today, Saline.

Tomorrow, Chest XRays and Doctor’s Appointments.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 3:17:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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13 posted on 01/29/2014 3:20:02 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: raybbr

Expansion of Medicaid = more ppl going to hospitals.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 3:33:12 AM PST by Justa
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To: Innovative

0bamacare

and so it begins.

remember folks, when visiting family members, bring a vase of flowers ... with lots of water


15 posted on 01/29/2014 3:43:17 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Innovative

I have been reading about pharmaceutical shortages for years now. Although most of the articles I have read state that the FDA is working with manufacturers to address the shortage, it seems that the problem is with getting the raw materials to feed into the manufacturing chain.

It seems the problem is just getting worse.

We can’t just blame Obamacare for this. A lot more comprehensive Obamaconomics is involved here.


16 posted on 01/29/2014 4:01:50 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I just paid $106 for a liter of saline solution at Mayo. For a cupful of common salts and water.
Here we go boys and girls, Uncle Sugar is in charge of your health and the insurance for it, ain’t it great!


17 posted on 01/29/2014 4:08:43 AM PST by fishnuts2 (Liberals are anything except liberal.)
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At least at the Mayo they have the expertise to correct the situation for their patients if things get very bad. My brother’s sister was a nurse at Methodist Hospital for 50 years and how she describes what nursing was like when she first started is amazing. Hospitals used to make their own saline solutions. It is possible, but it just takes an innovative mindset, which is still very present at the Mayo. (I say that as a recent patient there.)

The barium shortage is another situation all together. I had to have a shallow test a couple months ago and was told that the attendants were being very, very careful to use the least amount as necessary due to the shortage. However, as a patient, I thought that probably was a good thing to only have to be exposed to the least amount.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 4:42:27 AM PST by Madam Theophilus
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To: Innovative

Oh, come on. Are we supposed to believe that there’s a shortage of salt water? Gimme a break ...


19 posted on 01/29/2014 5:38:43 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Innovative

Obamacare: Tom Coburn loses cancer doctor

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/obamacare-tom-coburn-cancer-doctor-102724.html


20 posted on 01/29/2014 6:18:58 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Innovative

The FDA’s “Current Drug Shortage Index”. A very useful link to bookmark.

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugShortages/ucm050792.htm

Importantly, this is a very dynamic list and may not list regional or spot shortages.


21 posted on 01/29/2014 6:36:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: pepsionice

Off shore hospital medical ships to provide services.
Americans flocking to Mexican hospitals the way the Canadians have been coming to the US for years.
Go to the spa for “beauty” treatments and get medical care. Like $5000 for a spa week, free knee repair.


22 posted on 01/29/2014 6:45:32 AM PST by tbw2
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The FDA’s “Current Drug Shortage Index”. A very useful link to bookmark.

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugShortages/ucm050792.htm

Importantly, this is a very dynamic list and may not list regional or spot shortages.”

Thanks! very useful indeed. Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 01/29/2014 6:46:02 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: pepsionice

There was a version of this black market pharmaceutical gig in the US TV series “Boss”.

The drug dealer had an ill grandfather and was supplying the medications to a free clinic run by the daughter of the Mayor of Chicago, who was dying of Lewy Body Disease. The Mayor ends up buying his own meds thru the dealer to keep his disease out of the papers by bypassing any paper trail.

I wouldn’t doubt it is already happening.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 7:19:29 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Innovative

Under Obamacare there will be shortages of clean sheets for hospital beds as well as bed pans. Read in the UK press the horror stories about pregnant women giving birth unattended in hospital hallways, helpless grannies dying of dehydration in NHS hospitals and even patients found by family members in filthy beds where the sheets hadn’t been changed in days. Coming soon to a hospital near you thanks to Obama.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 7:23:22 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Popman

***How can there be a spike in the need for saline...?***

Those greedy suppliers of salt diverted all of the salt to ice road clearing. ;-D


26 posted on 01/29/2014 8:13:42 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: raybbr

cold environments with exposure dehydrate - the air is drier and the body is working overtime. The additional temperature drops are likely leading to additional exposure cases which often include saline drips for treatment.


27 posted on 01/29/2014 9:07:58 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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