[MrB]

I’ve got a concise definition of what is a right and what isn’t a right...

If it requires the involuntary burden on another person it is not a right.

[Blood of Tyrants]

If it must be provided by the labor of others, it is not a right.

[KarlInOhio]

Across Europe, a satellite dish is now a human right.

Actually, that is a little closer to a right. It allows you to put up your own dish on your property or property you rent without having the government or landlord prohibiting it. I'm a little less vehement about the landlord, but if you do no damage to the property I don't see why he should be allowed to prevent it. Some apartment complexes here have tried to force people to take the landlords overpriced cable service by not allowing dishes or access to the local utility cable service.

[blueunicorn6]

It used to be that if you wanted a better standard of living, you worked for it. Now, you vote Democrat. It works for a while, then you have a big, bloody mess with all the Democrat politicians saying they had no idea this would happen.

[Linda Frances]

My husband and I grew up dirt poor. Both our dad and moms worked a full time job plus second and third jobs (at Christmas) or as much overtime as they could get. My husband joined the navy because he is a patriot and to get free schooling. While most of his friends partied, he used the GI bill plus our money to get his bachelors and when he inherited $6000 from grandmother he used it all, plus our money to get his masters. He worked full time while going to school and graduated with 3.8 or higher. He worked a second job teaching college to get all our bills paid off and to get us into a good school district for our kids and out of our neighborhood that was blocks from subsidized housing and going downhill fast. My husband worked at STATCOM DOD and part time teaching college. Because he had little time with our three boys he tried to make up for it by doing more for them when money started coming. We live comfortably and help our kids with extras (like paying for hunting trips they could not afford and nice Christmas and birthday gifts). We pay for our grand kids extra curricular activists like hockey, gymnastics, music lessons, dance, swim lessons,....

My husband worked so hard all his life so obama could give it to those who don't work hard. Don't get me wrong, we want to and do help those who truly are unable to work; the widow, orphan,... But we have high school friends who partied to the point of destroying there body and mind, and know many people who just don't want to work. Obama want to talk justice. Where is the justice for people like my husband?

[theBuckwheat]

Given that two of the Ten Commandments directly protect property (to forbid theft and coveting), and the Commandment that forbids lying, socialism is built on values that God cannot bless or even allow.

This raises the issue that people who otherwise claim to know, obey and love God cannot support socialism. I would also suggest that when people arrange their financial affairs so as to deliberately become dependant upon the proceeds of socialist coveting and theft, they have put themselves in the same position as someone who conspires with a thief.

Theft that uses government to make it legal is still not moral.

But the moral framework for institutionalizing coveting and theft is to provide for the needy. God addressed this by making charity and concern for the poor an aspect of being righteous. But as with marriage and having one day of rest each week, charity is something that is a personal religious value and not something that we should involve the state in.

If we have separation of church and state, we must also have separation of marriage and the state as well as separation of charity and the state.

Secular government has substantially usurped charity in the provision for the needs of the poor. In areas where a tax on incomes is imposed, we could just as easily give a full tax credit for monies that are donated to sustain the poor. The net cash difference should be zero and the true needs of the poor could be addressed by competing charities, but that would not give politicians and bureaucrats any power of all of us.

Things could be different and better for all, if we could return government to its proper role and revoke its power to intrude in areas of our lives where it is not proper nor even moral to be.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Remember back in the Clinton Admin when one of his appointees (Cisineros) declared AIR CONDITIONING was a Constitutional Right?

[Little Ray]

This makes absolutely no sense, until you remember that the folks doing the redistribution not only get power out of it, but get a cut of the loot they redistribute.

[RJS1950]

If you follow this logic then it means that slavery is legal as servilism. The definition includes serfdom and wage slavery. slav·er·y (slā′və-rē, slāv′rē) n. pl.slav·er·ies 1. The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household. 2. a. The practice of owning slaves. b. A mode of production in which slaves constitute the principal work force. 3. The condition of being subject or addicted to a specified influence. 4. A condition of hard work and subjection: wage slavery.

[Liz]

A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY---NAILS IT BIGTIME--Vote-crazed Obama's SOTU said he’d act unilaterally on a cockamamie “savings plan" intended to dupe "all Americans"---called MyRA.

WORDS HAVE MEANING Boobamba said, “I will direct the Treasury to create a new way for working Americans to start their own retirement savings: MyRA. It's a new savings bond that encourages folks to build a nest egg. MyRA guarantees a decent return with no risk of losing what you put in.”

REALITY CHECK: For decades progressives have been looking to get their hands on the trillions in IRAs and 401(k)s beyond their grasp. These “savings bonds” are their “in” to that pool of money. A savings bond is a loan to government, so what Boobamba is proposing is adding more debt to the $17 trillion debt he created.

.... Boobamba's “feel good, sound good” MyRa thingy will add additional untraceable trillions to the nation’s unfunded liabilities. Where will the untraceable money for that “decent return” come from?

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Boobamba tripped himself up when he said he would direct The US Treasury" to act on this. Don't be fooled by the Chicago conmen----MyRa is another financial boondoggle on the order of the stimulus and Obamacare.

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ONCE UPON A TIME, OBAMA'S COS EMANUEL HAD TWO JOBS Soon as they occupied the WH, Obama and the Chicago con artists (a) took control of the US Census; (b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury.

PAUSE TO REFLECT Remember Obama had tight control of Treasury; Obama calculatedly placed his then-COS Rahm Emanuel in a dual role.......in the WH and at Treasury. Obama had a stranglehold on Treasury via COS Rahm Emanuel's dual role

STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE Soon as they occupied the WH, Obama and the Chi/cons (a) took control of the US Census; (b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury (including the conservative-suppressing IRS). Read on.

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THE SMOKING GUN---WSJ REPORT--On Jan 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner was appointed Obama's Secy of the Treasury. But within three weeks, the Obama White House tightened its grip on Treasury. Obama put his COS, Rahm Emanuel, in charge of Treasury---Rahm Emanuel's dual role was an unusual move.

When he got to Treasury, WH COS Rahm Emanuel was so involved in the inner workings that the phrase "Rahm wants it" had become an unofficial mantra among subservient govt staffers, prostrate in obeisance, scurrying to accede to Rahm's wishes, according to Treasury government officials. Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

More here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html

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Obama's trillion dollar stimulus scam is a huge unreported story. Makes Madoff look like a piker. In his new book "Extortion" author Peter Schweitzer writes about Obo, Holder (and other insiders), using the Justice Dept "and assorted govt agencies" to extort and steal billions of untraceable dollars.... read on:

EXCERPT---FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS Behind The Real Size of the Bailout; A guide to the abbreviations, acronyms, and obscure programs that make up the $14 trillion federal bailout of Wall Street
SOURCE motherjones.com
Mon Dec. 21, 2009 12:23 PM PST

The price tag for the Wall Street bailout is popularly put at $700 billion—---the actual size of TARP--the Troubled Assets Relief Program. But TARP is just the best known program in an array of more than 30 overseen by Treasury Department and Federal Reserve that have paid out or put aside untraceable money to bail out financial firms and inject money into the markets.

To get a sense of the size of the real $14 trillion bailout, see MJ chart at web site. A guide to the pieces of the puzzle includes massive untraceable Treasury Department bailout programs.

Money Market Mutual Fund: In September 2008, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel announced that it would insure the holdings of publicly offered money market mutual funds. According to the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), these guarantees could have potentially cost the federal government more than $3 trillion [PDF].

Public-Private Investment Fund: This joint Treasury-Federal Reserve program bought toxic assets from banks and brokerages—as much as $5 billion of assets per firm. According to SIGTARP, the government's potential exposure from the PPIF is between $500 million and $1 trillion [PDF].

TARP: As part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel made loans to or investments more than 750 banks and financial institutions. $650 billion has been paid out (not including HAMP; see below). As of December 21, 2009, $117.5 billion of that has been repaid.

Government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) stock purchase: The Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel bought $200 million in preferred stock from Fannie Mae and another $200 million from Freddie Mac [PDF] to show that they "will remain viable entities critical to the functioning of the housing and mortgage markets."

GSE mortgage-backed securities purchase: Under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel may buy mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. According to SIGTARP, these purchases could cost as much as $314 billion ---SNIP---.

LONG READ---go to web site to read more and checkout the shocking financial charts.

SOURCE http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/behind-real-size-bailout