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Election 2014: Kentucky Senate - Rasmussen (McConnell in REAL trouble! Bevin LEADS Grimes!)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 02/03/14 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 02/03/2014 9:43:17 AM PST by mn-bush-man

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell runs dead even with Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes in Rasmussen Reports’ first look at the 2014 U.S. Senate race in Kentucky. But McConnell’s GOP primary rival Matt Bevin leads Grimes by six points. (snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; kentucky; ky2014; lundergangrimes; mattbevin; mitchmcconnell; poll2014
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To: SomeCallMeTim; Darksheare; Conspiracy Guy
Your knickers most certainly are in a knot. Look at all the caps. Why don't you ask Jim or a Mod why the Bug was bannned? No one on this thread did it. Ask someone who knows.

Another clue for you: Free Republic is NOT a liberal debating society.

One more time: FR's God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!

161 posted on 02/04/2014 6:39:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SomeCallMeTim; Darksheare

We’re on the same side. Let’s drop it for now and go to Facebook. Just kidding about the facebook part


162 posted on 02/04/2014 6:41:02 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Don’t be a dipchit.


163 posted on 02/04/2014 6:41:33 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I’d rather you get a clue. Or two.


164 posted on 02/04/2014 6:42:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Your entire post here smacks of “abject whine”.
If you have a problem with trolls being banned, take it up with the boss!
Of course, those who defend trolls are themselves trolls.
Goodnight.


165 posted on 02/04/2014 6:42:47 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Guy would be a big hoot over at UT thread, huh? The whole castle is one big diversion....


166 posted on 02/04/2014 6:43:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

MOST annoying poster EVER


167 posted on 02/04/2014 6:43:36 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
You really are a child.

Have a good evening.

168 posted on 02/04/2014 6:44:51 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Darksheare
If you have a problem with trolls being banned, take it up with the boss!

Have done... several times over the years.

Of course, those who defend trolls are themselves trolls.

I as wandering how long it would take for THAT!

here we go...

169 posted on 02/04/2014 6:46:20 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m thinking, let’s just go look for some trolls. But I am tired and logging off.


170 posted on 02/04/2014 7:13:52 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Not to worry, they’ll come to you. That’s what makes them so enduring. See you tomorrow.


171 posted on 02/04/2014 7:30:30 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
McConnell runs dead even with Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes in Rasmussen Reports’ first look at the 2014 U.S. Senate race in Kentucky. But McConnell’s GOP primary rival Matt Bevin leads Grimes by six points.
IOW, Bevin et al's negative campaigning against McConnell have weakened the eventual Republican nominee in the general; even were Bevin to win the primary, the current unknown quantity would get scrutinized and smeared by the partisan media shills during the campaign for the general election. IOW, he's doing exactly what was expected of him.
172 posted on 02/04/2014 7:47:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Viennacon; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

Is something wrong with Bevin or you just don’t think he’s a strong enough candidate to beat McConnell?

I suspected from the jump that McConnell due to his high unfavorably would be a weaker candidate than a fresh face.

I don’t think either would ultimately lose but if Bevin is polling better then that’s helpful for him to use in his primary campaign.


173 posted on 02/04/2014 9:29:37 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

So you evidence to assert Bevin is a ‘paultard’ is that he is viewed positively by an online forum... and he stated he has non-interventionist foreign policy views.

Conclusive.


174 posted on 02/04/2014 9:36:29 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m back.


175 posted on 02/05/2014 12:47:30 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Mee two. I wonder if there will be baby trolls to club today?


176 posted on 02/05/2014 4:33:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Impy; Viennacon; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

I strongly suspect that Bevin is a Paulistinian.
He came out of nowhere, was quickly endorsed by the Ron Paul Cultist websites, spoke out about how his foreign policy is similar to Ron Paul’s, was joined by Rand Paul campaign apparatchiks (I know, I know, McConnell hired some of Rand’s folks as well), and started raising big money from the same channels that many Paultards use to raise funds. Each item taken in isolation may be nothing, but put them together and I get a really bad feeling about him. I have a personal revulsion for Paulbots, and given the choice between a basically conservative—albeit very pro-establishment—Republican with a 30-year record that one can look at and that (you’ve got to admit) isn’t bad (McConnell’s lifetime ACU rating, covering 28 years, is 90%), versus an unknown quantity with Paulistinian characteristics and with absolutely no record to prove his conservative talk, I have to hold my nose and support the “establishment guy.”

As I’ve said repeatedly, I would support a conservative challenger to McConnell is I knew such challenger was a real conservative (I don’t consider Paultard Justin Amash a conservative: he’s half leberaltarian and half anti-Semite) and actually had the kind of background that could get one elected to the U.S. Senate. Some FReepers have pointed out that the problem is that the McConnell machine is so powerful in Kentucky and in DC that qualified, ambitious prospective candidates are afraid to run against him lest they lose the primary and then have their futures crushed, and I have no doubt that that is true, but the unfairness of the situation doesn’t make a bad candidate good.

Viennacon and others question my assertion that Bevin is a Paulistinian, and they certainly are correct that I can’t prove it. But if I’m wrong and Bevin has no affinity for Ron Paul’s cult nor does he share any of his agenda, he’s still an unknown quantity whose background is more appropriate for a far lesser office than the U.S. Senate. I see nothing in his résumé that makes me think that he’d be particularly good in a U.S. Senate campaign, much less as a U.S. Senator.

And then there’s the question of character. One of the few things we know about Bevin is that he lied on his LinkedIn entry about his education, falsely implying that he was an MIT graduate. Here’s the screenshot of Bevin’s LinkedIn profile, before he got caught and changed it: http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2013/08_august/21/bevin.jpg

His “education” line next to his picture lists only “Massachusetts Institute of Technology,” and when one scrolls down to see the details of his education it says that he studied “Entrepreneurship” at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from 2006-2008, and that he graduated from the Entrepreneurial Master’s Program at the MIT Endicott Campus. In fact, the “entrepreneurship program” in which Bevin was enrolled and from which he graduated has absolutely nothing to do with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology or any of its graduate schools.

Bevin falsely used the MIT name because the *conference center where he took his courses* happens to be owned by MIT and is used by its grad schools for some courses, but the conference center is also rented out to other folks. (I guess it’s a good thing that Bevin didn’t also take yoga classes held at the basement of the Harvard Law School building, or else he’d claim he attended Harvard as well.) What Bevin did goes far before disingenuousness and enters the realm of fraud, and such dishonesty is a really bad trait in a candidate, much less an aspiring public servant.

And this is the guy you all want me to suspend disbelief on and support for the U.S. Senate? Running a Senate race is hard enough for people whose life experience has prepared them for the challenge, and whom people can look at and say “he’s ready to be a Senator”: Joe Miller had a sparkling résumé and impeccable conservative bona fides, but couldn’t connect with less conservative voters and ran an arrogant and lackadaisical campaign in the general election, allowing the RINO Murkowski to steal the election from him. Miller failed despite the fact that *no one* could question his credentials or his honesty. What do you think that Alison Lundergan Grimes (or Grimey, as she prefers to be called) will do to Bevin if he wins the nomination? How will pretending to be an MIT grad sell in rural Kentucky? (And I know that Grimey will hit McConnell hard as well, but a ubiquitous 30-year Senator like McConnell will be far harder for her to “define” in voters’ minds than it will be for her to do to a newcomer like Bevin; besides, McConnell will have unlimited money to spend on rebuttals and his own attack ads.)

So, to answer your questions, yes, I think that there’s something wrong with Bevin. I also disagree with those who hold the (certainly legitimate) opinion that McConnell is a riskier bet for the GOP because of his high “unfavorable” in polls. McConnell always has high unfavorables, and he always ends up winning with the same 53% or so (except in 2002, when he won by a landslide). Electorally, he’s to KY what Jesse Helms was to NC: that juicy target whom Democrats always thought was within grasp but who always ended up winning by around 5%-8% (Helms’s vote percentages in his five Senate elections were 54.0%, 54.5%, 51.7%%, 52.5% and 52.6%, while McConnell’s vote percentages have been 49.9% (in an upset against the Democrat incumbent), 52.2%, 55.5%, 64.7% and 53.0%). Nine months out, I predict that if McConnell wins the nomination (which I think he will) he’ll beat Grimey by around 54%-45%.

I would be remiss if I didn’t address the recent Rasmussen poll that shows Bevin running stronger against Grimey than does McConnell. I think that at this stage of the campaign Bevin is a “generic Republican” and Grimey is “generic moderate Democrat” in many voters’ minds, while McConnell is McConnell. I suspect that many Bevin supporters, as well as many who aren’t Bevin supporters but who are pissed off at McConnell, express their discontent by telling pollsters that they “don’t know” whether they’d vote for McConnell or Grimey, or maybe even tell them that they’ll vote for Grimey so as to make McConnell look less electable. Frankly, I don’t foresee conservatives in KY voting for a liberal Democrat like Grimey (whom voters will think is named “Harriet Reid” by the time McConnell is through with her) over a Senator with a 90% lifetime ACU rating like McConnell. You are well aware by now of my distaste for Bevin, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat if he were the GOP nominee facing Grimey (and I wouldn’t say anything negative about him until at least election day); I think that, similarly, if McConnell wins the primary and a few months elapse, Bevin supporters and other conservatives who likewise are upset at McConnell will, in large part, hold their noses and vote for McConnell in order to kick Harry Reid out as Senate Majority Leader and stop Obama from packing the federal courts with liberal activist judges.

Anyhow, that’s how I feel about that topic. Sorry for the long post.


177 posted on 02/05/2014 8:07:22 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It’s difficult for me to hunt during business hours. The keyboard on my Android is so small.


178 posted on 02/05/2014 8:35:02 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; 1010RD
Bevin falsely used the MIT name because the *conference center where he took his courses* happens to be owned by MIT and is used by its grad schools for some courses, but the conference center is also rented out to other folks.

This is a very unfair characterization. Bevin posted a photo of the diploma awarded from the program he attended. It is a program sponsored by the EO (Entrepreneur Organization) AND the MIT Enterprise Forum. This IS an organization affiliated with MIT. They don't "just own the building"... they co-sponsor the Master's program.

Mitch has used this falsehood with great affect in his negative advertising. But, it is false.

179 posted on 02/05/2014 9:52:00 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SunkenCiv
IOW, Bevin et al's negative campaigning against McConnell have weakened the eventual Republican nominee in the general;

Are you serious? Bevin has hardly run ANY advertising... negative or otherwise. Most of what little he has run has been positive, just trying to introduce himself. The few negative ads he's run have been in response to HEAVY negative ads run by Mitch.

I have never seen an incumbent spend so much money, so early, to demonize a relatively unknown challenger. Mitch has carpet bombed the air waves. He even bought a local TV commercial in Louisville during the Super Bowl!

He's obviously, very worried.

180 posted on 02/05/2014 9:56:13 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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