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Florida Woman Furious After SWAT Team Orders Her Out of Her Own Home During Standoff With Neighbor
The Blaze ^ | 2/5/2014 | Elizabeth Kreft

Posted on 02/05/2014 1:28:03 PM PST by Nachum

A Jacksonville homeowner thought she may have been robbed Sunday, but realized instead her home had been altered by a SWAT team.

Deborah Franz was told to leave her home by police during a standoff with her neighbor over the weekend. According to WTEV-TV, Franz overheard loud fighting next door, and then saw SWAT team members swarm the street.

“The cop goes ‘You all need to leave, you can’t be in your house,’” Franz told the station.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; florida; home; lawenforcement; leos; leosoutofcontrol; policestate; standingarmy; swat; swatteam; thirdamendment; woman
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To: Nachum

“No.”


41 posted on 02/05/2014 3:11:04 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Such visits might not be the wisest of things, especially if they know they’re likely to get threats.

Based on that, such action leaves a lot of opportunity for it to backfire. One wrong move or misinterpretation, and it’d put you on the wrong side of the law(whether or not you were right to do so).

To each their own, but there’s doing it the tough way and there’s doing it the smart way.


42 posted on 02/05/2014 3:16:52 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: RandallFlagg

And it will be sent to every cop school in the country to show that it was justified and acceptable.


43 posted on 02/05/2014 3:19:19 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
At this point, the unarmed offender took another 2 rounds in the back.


44 posted on 02/05/2014 3:57:24 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
At this point the offender is shot twice in the back.

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45 posted on 02/05/2014 4:06:23 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: PapaBear3625; LeoWindhorse
Wood over steel with multiple bolts.

Water impulse charges would make short work of that.
Jus' sayin'

46 posted on 02/05/2014 6:41:57 PM PST by Sarajevo (Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world)
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To: Gene Eric
It's gonna change. Gonna get much worse.

The 30+ million illegals and their extended families won't even bat an eye at this stuff either.

47 posted on 02/05/2014 6:44:32 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Nachum

Fighting next door?

No weapons mentioned?

And this required a military style commando swat team response?


48 posted on 02/05/2014 7:03:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hulka; George from New England

“Case coming up and I have jury duty coming up too.”

“That is an explicit threat that if you are on that jury, you found him guilty already.”

______________________________________________________

I did see any explicit threat from the poster.


49 posted on 02/05/2014 7:07:07 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It’s Us against Them, and really, there aren’t that many of Them.”

I just wonder how they’d really handle a real uprising like what apparently happened in Ukraine I think it was.

Look at how they reacted to just one man, Dorner. Thousands of cops pissing and crapping themselves over one man, and their individual odds of being the one that met him were lower than Lotto odds.
Nor is that the only example about police ‘courage’.

Cops left their courage behind, along with their ability to see others as real people. Now they are just machines who’s only concern that is greater than serving their pay master is avoiding any risk possible. Push comes to shove, they’ll climb in a hole and put their own children in front of them as shields.

I didn’t leave anyone with the idea that I have respect for cops, did I?


50 posted on 02/05/2014 7:12:15 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: Hulka
Which brings up a question: Are police legally considered “soldiers”?
Does the Third Amendment apply to local law enforcement?
Interesting question.

There's a simple answer: which reading would give the government more power in a particular situation?
See, the War on Drugs must be fought, and we need the police to be well funded and well armed to do it… just like soldiers in any other war.
Or, they're busting into the homes of people and staying there (traditionally called 'quartering')… but they aren't soldiers, not technically.

And that is how they will interpret it.

51 posted on 02/05/2014 7:37:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: I got the rope
Uhh..don’t we have an amendment or two in the constitution about stuff like this?

Yes it called the third amendment, there was a similar case a few months ago that the home owners were suing the town and the police dept.

52 posted on 02/05/2014 7:49:02 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Nachum
“The cop goes ‘You all need to leave, you can’t be in your house,’”

GFYS and get your ass off of my property. Say hello to my Saiga.

53 posted on 02/05/2014 10:13:32 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: colorado tanker
the guy “SWAT” (standards must be lower these days) had surrounded got away!

This happens quite frequently in Pittsburgh. Totally incompetent swat teams. Blow out the windows with their flash bangs and after an hour wait they find that no one was there.

54 posted on 02/05/2014 10:19:09 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: sten
I’m pretty certain this exact situation is expressly forbidden in the Constitution
assuming anyone bothers to read it anymore.

The problem is that the third amendment applies to soldiers, not [strictly speaking] police.
Now, given how the police are trained, armed, and operate at the behest of the government — to include using military gear and tactics — it is certainly arguable that the third should/does apply.

55 posted on 02/05/2014 11:55:54 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Ehhh, quit complaining lady. At least they didn’t drink up your beer”

or shoot your dog


56 posted on 02/06/2014 12:39:43 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Gaffer

57 posted on 02/06/2014 1:46:40 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Just like that! Nice....


58 posted on 02/06/2014 1:54:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: riri

We no longer teach immigrants and our young what America and our Constitution are really about.


59 posted on 02/06/2014 2:05:35 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Actually it is worse than that. That are actively fed ideas counter to Americanism and becoming American.


60 posted on 02/06/2014 3:07:46 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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