Skip to comments.It's over: Jeb Bush will be the GOP nominee in 2016
Posted on 02/05/2014 4:05:46 PM PST by Carbonsteel
Democracy is starting to get me down.
Oh, I know what you're thinking: I write regularly about American politics, and democracy is only just starting to get me down?
Okay, good point. Maybe I should say that democracy is starting to get me down even more than it usually does.
And why is that? Because it's beginning to dawn on me that Jeb Bush is probably going to be the Republican Party's nominee for president in 2016.
Consider: With the ongoing implosion of Chris Christie's political career, the GOP establishment has lost its best hope for a candidate who could stop a libertarian-populist insurgency during the primaries. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker the list of viable fire-breathers is longer (and less dominated by incompetents, crazies, and one-note sideshow acts) than establishment types would like.
What are the alternatives?
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...
Well then, we get another Democrat.
I won’t vote for a RINO.
Jebbie can take the March 4 nomination of George P. in Texas and propel that to a turnaround in family fortunes. Then he can be the 2016 nominee without our votes and lose, maybe winning just a dozen smaller states, possibly not even TX.
It would be your own party people engaging in this treachery out of being able to recognize a famous name.
This is BS.
I believe the Tea Party was willing to stand aside for one RINO (Romney).
Next time that won’t happen.
So I’d see that outcome as:
45 - Hillary
30 - Bush
25 - Tea
Ironic that like her dear husband BJ, Hillary would win with the famous “Clintonian plurality”
He would be a better fit on the democrat ticket.
If that’s the case, then count me out.
Golly, I know I’ve probably said this before, but dammit, getting to the end of my string, I agree !
I agree. BS.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
The RATs want him to run..propaganda machine already spinning
Somtimes ya just have to spit. If it’s Jeb, I have no one to vote for in the two major parties.
no no no and no.
Ain’t votin’ RINO no mo’ no mo’.
JB = Guaranteed looser.
The problem is that while liberals vote Democrat every time (they’d vote for Hitler if he was the only Democrat candidate), conservatives won’t vote if the candidate smells just a little too liberal. So now we’re losing every election. Are we really better off with Obama than we would have been with Romney? Ironically, it’s the most conservative of us that allowed Obama to stay in office.
The establishment blew its wad in 2012. And they revealed all their games. And they going to try to rig the game again by changing the rules.
But the Bush name is a little long in the tooth. George Bush wanted to be vice-president when Spiro Agnew resigned, but Nixon picked Ford. Then he wanted to be vice-president when Ford became president, but Ford chose Nelson Rockefeller. Then he wanted to be the vice-presidential nominee in 1976, but Ford picked Bob Dole. Then he ran for president himself in 1980 but Reagan got the nomination and finally he was made vice-president. So he was on the national ticket in ‘80, ‘84, ‘88, and ‘92. Then his son was on the national ticket in ‘00 and ‘04.
I sincerely hope the people have had their fill of the Bush family’s lust for power!
I would hold my nose and vote for Christie or even Romney again nut smother damned Bush - NEVER!!
That clan of bastards destroyed Reagan’s legacy and America with it and set the stage for Clinton and Obama.
Every so often things reach a point where the establishment candidate gets overwhelmed by the popular sentiment.
Case in point is the nomination of Reagan in 1980.
Now we don’t have another Reagan out there, but the movement groundswell is definitely present. It just needs to consolidate behind a single candidate and do so quickly.
The only way Jeb wins the nomination is if conservatives do a circular firing squad with three or four acceptable Conservative candidates in the mix. If that happens, we only have ourselves to blame ...
“Stay out’da bushes” - Jesse “Shakedown” aka “HymieTown” Jackson
Are there any other Bush relatives in that family that can run in later years? I'm hoping it all doesn't end with Jeb.
Then the GOP has already lost another election
I will vote in the primaries but if Jeb gets the nomination—I will not vote for him. I am done with the hold your nose theory. I am also sick of the royal families of politics.
That's a false pretense right there.
Romney wasn't "a little too liberal."
Romney was literally on the activist wrong side of every crucial issue and principle, from forced acceptance of homosexual norming, to government-run health care. Some of us actually did our due diligence on the guy.
“Then he can be the 2016 nominee without our votes and lose, maybe winning just a dozen smaller states, possibly not even TX.”
A Republican will win Texas.
Rove and his inside-the-beltway "club-rinos" are in your corner.
I thought he said that he wasn’t running?
It’s too soon to be this despondent.
four more years for Bill
We “rinos” just don’t go for rookies. Cruz has no chance in 2016 because he is a rookie. If he runs well in 2016, it will be his turn in 2020 or 2024.
The next nominee will be Romney again (not a rookie due to 2012), Paul Ryan (not a rookie because of 2012), Rick Santorum (finished 2nd in 2012 and not a rookie), Jeb Bush (not a rookie because dad and brother have been potus) or maybe Palin (not a rookie due to 2008).
You're right. Valerie Jarret may suspend all federal elections and we don't have to worry...
I am sure Ann Coulture will come out shortly and tell us we are idiots and rubes if we don’t vote for dasBush.
But I say no and HELL no!
If they pick a RINO I will be staying home and not voting.
I agree with you!
Choices, a big govt Bushie or a bigger govt dem...me vote down ticket Conservative.
... operate the primaries as usual.
I'm mentally prepared for it now, which I most certainly WASN'T when McCain actually got the nomination in '08. In 2007, I'd have said anyone who thought it possible was insane.
In 2014, I'm saying that anyone who thinks it likely that Business As Usual will dominate the GOP primaries, where liberal north-eastern states do the weeding-out, will give America in 2016 another Romney-like "Republican," is very sane indeed.
Prepare for action, is all I'm sayin'. I hope I'm wrong and the GOP nominates a TEA type limited government conservative, but ... I don't think so.
I'm looking ahead figuring that in 2016, we're going to be in a familiar pickle. The GOPe will force a third party split, and it's best to start now figuring out how we might use it to advantage for the advance of limited government conservatism.
What a strange article. As soon as the guy said he was counting on Christie you have to know he was full of crap. Then he says “Indeed, for the Republican establishment, it may come down to this: Only a Bush can beat a Clinton.” Say what? A Bush has run against a Clinton once that I can recall. The Bush lost. Clinton was smart, articulate and up and coming dude against Daddy Bush who was not much of a speaker.
It’s not about names. It’s about getting conservatives like Cruz that can communicate, persuade and reach people.
Does anyone else see a pattern?
Im hoping Yellowstone goes boom first
They way I see it, sometimes doing the right thing means choosing the lesser of two evils, because doing nothing is the same as choosing the greater. Government itself is a lesser of two evils, and we can’t pretend that there is such a thing as a “perfect solution”. We find the best one possible and that’s all we can do.
Jeb Bush would be the perfect nominee.
Plus #1: He would lose so badly that the Republican Party would be destroyed. Good riddance.
Plus #2: He would be so awful a pick that the door would open to a 3rd party candidate. Ted Cruz? Sarah Palin?
In a three way race a Cruz/Palin or Palin/Cruz ticket would have a VERY good chance of winning.
So... Go ahead GOPe! Make my day!
I would vote, but I would write in the name of a conservative candidate (Cruz or Palin). I will not cast another vote for a RINO loser. If Hillary wins because the GOP and RNC cannot take the pulse of the heartland of America (conservatism), it’s on them.
“Are there any other Bush relatives in that family that can run in later years? I’m hoping it all doesn’t end with Jeb.”
Not to worry, George P. Bush is running for Texas Land Commissioner now. Goody for you, another generation of Bush. :o)
FALSE PRETENSE again, by the way. NO ONE is looking for a perfect solution. MANY PEOPLE are accusing others of looking for a perfect solution.
After Jeb, comes George P. They’re not done with screwing-up America, by a long shot. That is, IF we survive the last 3 years of 0bummer&Co hell-on-earth.
I think you are CORRECT.
And why is that? 'Cuz they know conservatives would rather stay home and let the Dems take over the government than see a Repub they don't like win the Presidency.
If I was a Dem, I'd want Jeb or Christie or practically any other RINO. As long as the Repubs keep running their version of Dem-lite, they will lose.