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It's over: Jeb Bush will be the GOP nominee in 2016
The Week ^ | 02/05/14 | Damon Linker

Posted on 02/05/2014 4:05:46 PM PST by Carbonsteel

Democracy is starting to get me down.

Oh, I know what you're thinking: I write regularly about American politics, and democracy is only just starting to get me down?

Okay, good point. Maybe I should say that democracy is starting to get me down even more than it usually does.

And why is that? Because it's beginning to dawn on me that Jeb Bush is probably going to be the Republican Party's nominee for president in 2016.

Consider: With the ongoing implosion of Chris Christie's political career, the GOP establishment has lost its best hope for a candidate who could stop a libertarian-populist insurgency during the primaries. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker — the list of viable fire-breathers is longer (and less dominated by incompetents, crazies, and one-note sideshow acts) than establishment types would like.

What are the alternatives?

(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New Jersey; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016; 2016election; bs; chrischristie; damonlinker; election2014; election2016; florida; fortlee; jebbush; newjersey; randsconcerntrolls; scottwalker; stayoutdabushes; tedcruz; texas; timeforathirdparty; tpinos
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1 posted on 02/05/2014 4:05:46 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

Well then, we get another Democrat.

I won’t vote for a RINO.


2 posted on 02/05/2014 4:07:06 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Carbonsteel

Jebbie can take the March 4 nomination of George P. in Texas and propel that to a turnaround in family fortunes. Then he can be the 2016 nominee without our votes and lose, maybe winning just a dozen smaller states, possibly not even TX.


3 posted on 02/05/2014 4:07:48 PM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

It would be your own party people engaging in this treachery out of being able to recognize a famous name.


4 posted on 02/05/2014 4:08:34 PM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: Carbonsteel

This is BS.


5 posted on 02/05/2014 4:08:50 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Carbonsteel

I believe the Tea Party was willing to stand aside for one RINO (Romney).
Next time that won’t happen.

So I’d see that outcome as:

45 - Hillary
30 - Bush
25 - Tea

Ironic that like her dear husband BJ, Hillary would win with the famous “Clintonian plurality”


6 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:14 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Carbonsteel

He would be a better fit on the democrat ticket.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:17 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Carbonsteel

If that’s the case, then count me out.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Golly, I know I’ve probably said this before, but dammit, getting to the end of my string, I agree !


9 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:47 PM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesn’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
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To: EveningStar

I agree. BS.


10 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:57 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Carbonsteel

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Sheesh.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 4:10:03 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Carbonsteel

The RATs want him to run..propaganda machine already spinning


12 posted on 02/05/2014 4:10:37 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: Carbonsteel

Somtimes ya just have to spit. If it’s Jeb, I have no one to vote for in the two major parties.


13 posted on 02/05/2014 4:11:59 PM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: Carbonsteel

no no no and no.


14 posted on 02/05/2014 4:12:04 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Ain’t votin’ RINO no mo’ no mo’.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 4:12:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
No more shrubs....

.....Molly Ivins

16 posted on 02/05/2014 4:12:47 PM PST by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Carbonsteel

JB = Guaranteed looser.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 4:14:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Carbonsteel

The problem is that while liberals vote Democrat every time (they’d vote for Hitler if he was the only Democrat candidate), conservatives won’t vote if the candidate smells just a little too liberal. So now we’re losing every election. Are we really better off with Obama than we would have been with Romney? Ironically, it’s the most conservative of us that allowed Obama to stay in office.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 4:14:58 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Carbonsteel

The establishment blew its wad in 2012. And they revealed all their games. And they going to try to rig the game again by changing the rules.

But the Bush name is a little long in the tooth. George Bush wanted to be vice-president when Spiro Agnew resigned, but Nixon picked Ford. Then he wanted to be vice-president when Ford became president, but Ford chose Nelson Rockefeller. Then he wanted to be the vice-presidential nominee in 1976, but Ford picked Bob Dole. Then he ran for president himself in 1980 but Reagan got the nomination and finally he was made vice-president. So he was on the national ticket in ‘80, ‘84, ‘88, and ‘92. Then his son was on the national ticket in ‘00 and ‘04.

I sincerely hope the people have had their fill of the Bush family’s lust for power!


19 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:05 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I would hold my nose and vote for Christie or even Romney again nut smother damned Bush - NEVER!!

That clan of bastards destroyed Reagan’s legacy and America with it and set the stage for Clinton and Obama.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:18 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Carbonsteel
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21 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:37 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: EveningStar

I agree.

Every so often things reach a point where the establishment candidate gets overwhelmed by the popular sentiment.

Case in point is the nomination of Reagan in 1980.

Now we don’t have another Reagan out there, but the movement groundswell is definitely present. It just needs to consolidate behind a single candidate and do so quickly.

The only way Jeb wins the nomination is if conservatives do a circular firing squad with three or four acceptable Conservative candidates in the mix. If that happens, we only have ourselves to blame ...


22 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:39 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: ptsal

“Stay out’da bushes” - Jesse “Shakedown” aka “HymieTown” Jackson


23 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:48 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Carbonsteel
Most excellent! A trio of Bushes in my lifetime!

Are there any other Bush relatives in that family that can run in later years? I'm hoping it all doesn't end with Jeb.

24 posted on 02/05/2014 4:16:01 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Carbonsteel


25 posted on 02/05/2014 4:16:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Then the GOP has already lost another election


26 posted on 02/05/2014 4:17:26 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Carbonsteel

I will vote in the primaries but if Jeb gets the nomination—I will not vote for him. I am done with the hold your nose theory. I am also sick of the royal families of politics.


27 posted on 02/05/2014 4:18:13 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
...conservatives won’t vote if the candidate smells just a little too liberal.

That's a false pretense right there.

Romney wasn't "a little too liberal."

Romney was literally on the activist wrong side of every crucial issue and principle, from forced acceptance of homosexual norming, to government-run health care. Some of us actually did our due diligence on the guy.

Did you?

28 posted on 02/05/2014 4:20:14 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Theodore R.

“Then he can be the 2016 nominee without our votes and lose, maybe winning just a dozen smaller states, possibly not even TX.”

A Republican will win Texas.


29 posted on 02/05/2014 4:20:28 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: ZULU
I would hold my nose and vote for Christie or even Romney again... "

Rove and his inside-the-beltway "club-rinos" are in your corner.

30 posted on 02/05/2014 4:20:42 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Carbonsteel

I thought he said that he wasn’t running?


31 posted on 02/05/2014 4:20:47 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crused it. -M. Twain)
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To: Carbonsteel

It’s too soon to be this despondent.


32 posted on 02/05/2014 4:21:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Carbonsteel

four more years for Bill


33 posted on 02/05/2014 4:22:23 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We “rinos” just don’t go for rookies. Cruz has no chance in 2016 because he is a rookie. If he runs well in 2016, it will be his turn in 2020 or 2024.

The next nominee will be Romney again (not a rookie due to 2012), Paul Ryan (not a rookie because of 2012), Rick Santorum (finished 2nd in 2012 and not a rookie), Jeb Bush (not a rookie because dad and brother have been potus) or maybe Palin (not a rookie due to 2008).


34 posted on 02/05/2014 4:22:41 PM PST by staytrue
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To: trisham
It’s too soon to be this despondent.

You're right. Valerie Jarret may suspend all federal elections and we don't have to worry...

/s

35 posted on 02/05/2014 4:23:35 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Carbonsteel

I am sure Ann Coulture will come out shortly and tell us we are idiots and rubes if we don’t vote for dasBush.

But I say no and HELL no!

If they pick a RINO I will be staying home and not voting.


36 posted on 02/05/2014 4:25:24 PM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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To: PhiloBedo

I agree with you!


37 posted on 02/05/2014 4:25:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Carbonsteel

Choices, a big govt Bushie or a bigger govt dem...me vote down ticket Conservative.


38 posted on 02/05/2014 4:27:34 PM PST by RginTN
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To: tanknetter
The only way Jeb wins the nomination is if conservatives ...

... operate the primaries as usual.

I'm mentally prepared for it now, which I most certainly WASN'T when McCain actually got the nomination in '08. In 2007, I'd have said anyone who thought it possible was insane.

In 2014, I'm saying that anyone who thinks it likely that Business As Usual will dominate the GOP primaries, where liberal north-eastern states do the weeding-out, will give America in 2016 another Romney-like "Republican," is very sane indeed.

Prepare for action, is all I'm sayin'. I hope I'm wrong and the GOP nominates a TEA type limited government conservative, but ... I don't think so.

I'm looking ahead figuring that in 2016, we're going to be in a familiar pickle. The GOPe will force a third party split, and it's best to start now figuring out how we might use it to advantage for the advance of limited government conservatism.

39 posted on 02/05/2014 4:27:52 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Carbonsteel

What a strange article. As soon as the guy said he was counting on Christie you have to know he was full of crap. Then he says “Indeed, for the Republican establishment, it may come down to this: Only a Bush can beat a Clinton.” Say what? A Bush has run against a Clinton once that I can recall. The Bush lost. Clinton was smart, articulate and up and coming dude against Daddy Bush who was not much of a speaker.

It’s not about names. It’s about getting conservatives like Cruz that can communicate, persuade and reach people.


40 posted on 02/05/2014 4:27:54 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Carbonsteel
McCain, Romney, Jeb Bush.

Does anyone else see a pattern?

41 posted on 02/05/2014 4:28:09 PM PST by detective
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To: Carbonsteel

Im hoping Yellowstone goes boom first


42 posted on 02/05/2014 4:28:35 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Finny

They way I see it, sometimes doing the right thing means choosing the lesser of two evils, because doing nothing is the same as choosing the greater. Government itself is a lesser of two evils, and we can’t pretend that there is such a thing as a “perfect solution”. We find the best one possible and that’s all we can do.


43 posted on 02/05/2014 4:29:53 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Carbonsteel

Jeb Bush would be the perfect nominee.

Plus #1: He would lose so badly that the Republican Party would be destroyed. Good riddance.

Plus #2: He would be so awful a pick that the door would open to a 3rd party candidate. Ted Cruz? Sarah Palin?

In a three way race a Cruz/Palin or Palin/Cruz ticket would have a VERY good chance of winning.

So... Go ahead GOPe! Make my day!


44 posted on 02/05/2014 4:30:20 PM PST by EternalHope (Be ready.)
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To: stockpirate

I would vote, but I would write in the name of a conservative candidate (Cruz or Palin). I will not cast another vote for a RINO loser. If Hillary wins because the GOP and RNC cannot take the pulse of the heartland of America (conservatism), it’s on them.


45 posted on 02/05/2014 4:31:08 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: SamAdams76

“Are there any other Bush relatives in that family that can run in later years? I’m hoping it all doesn’t end with Jeb.”

Not to worry, George P. Bush is running for Texas Land Commissioner now. Goody for you, another generation of Bush. :o)


46 posted on 02/05/2014 4:32:09 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I used to see it that way.

:^)

FALSE PRETENSE again, by the way. NO ONE is looking for a perfect solution. MANY PEOPLE are accusing others of looking for a perfect solution.

47 posted on 02/05/2014 4:35:29 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: cotton1706

After Jeb, comes George P. They’re not done with screwing-up America, by a long shot. That is, IF we survive the last 3 years of 0bummer&Co hell-on-earth.


48 posted on 02/05/2014 4:35:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: EternalHope

I think you are CORRECT.


49 posted on 02/05/2014 4:36:35 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: rainee
The RATs want him to run..propaganda machine already spinning.

And why is that? 'Cuz they know conservatives would rather stay home and let the Dems take over the government than see a Repub they don't like win the Presidency.

If I was a Dem, I'd want Jeb or Christie or practically any other RINO. As long as the Repubs keep running their version of Dem-lite, they will lose.

50 posted on 02/05/2014 4:37:38 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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