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Manchin: ‘We Haven’t Been Successful’ in Changing Afghanistan: ‘Time to Leave’
Cybercast News Service ^ | February 7, 2014 - 5:59 AM | Susan Jones

Posted on 02/07/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by Olog-hai

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) says it’s time to “rebuild America, not Afghanistan.” He and three other senators want Congress to debate a continued U.S. military presence in that country after 12-plus years of war:

“If military might or money would change that part of the world, we’d have changed it by now,” Manchin told a news conference on Thursday. […]

Manchin on Thursday joined fellow Democrat Jeff Merkeley (Ore.) and Republicans Mike Lee (Utah) and Rand Paul (Ky.) in introducing a resolution that says Congress should vote on the Obama administration’s reported plan to keep 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan for another ten years. …

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; joemanchin; rop; warofnecessity
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More snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Maybe all the sick rules of engagement that favor the Taliban’s survival ought not have been implemented? Bad enough that Obama’s making the USA look weak without Dems and GOP-e adding to it.
1 posted on 02/07/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Afghanistan is a failure and only idiots would want to keep trying to fix the unfixable.


2 posted on 02/07/2014 10:47:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Only because of the approach. The Taliban were nearly extinguished—and then along came the liberal marching orders that allowed them to start building back up. Setting up an Islamic government with someone like Karzai at the head was no help either.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 10:48:51 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
The voters of WV must be tired of the cost of this war in Afghanistan. Same here in Ohio. Right across the board, there's no support for it. Flat out tired and will not support another 10 years.

In the past 6 months, there's been an epidemic of heroin use and deaths. People know this stuff is grown in Afghanistan and wonder why the fields are not dessicated. It's turning people against the program and the CIA in particular is being blamed in peoples minds.

4 posted on 02/07/2014 10:49:52 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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I don't know why we went into Afghanistan to begin with. Do they have resources to exploit?

It would've made more sense to keep the nutcases and their excuse for a culture in Afghanistand and out of the US than us trying to change them.

5 posted on 02/07/2014 10:50:21 AM PST by grania
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To: Olog-hai

The Taliban will be running Kabul 90 days after our last big drawdown


6 posted on 02/07/2014 10:51:09 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: grania

Iraq does have its existing oil resources, but the Uniparty handed them over to Red China.

Afghanistan has a lot of minerals (gold, copper, iron, lithium, cobalt) and natural gas, yes.

Of course, invasion for the purpose of natural resource seizure/exploitation would be construed by the liberal media as imperialism, under a government with the wrong party label in majority.


7 posted on 02/07/2014 10:53:29 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

There was never any way to win.


8 posted on 02/07/2014 10:53:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

The last thing I want is soldiers stationed at Afghan bases built by their grandfathers.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 10:54:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

This reminds me of Obama being against the Fallujah surge and being proven wrong.


10 posted on 02/07/2014 10:54:17 AM PST by Olog-hai
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It was never a policy option, but the smart thing to do would have been to overthrow the Taliban, and arm their enemies just enough that they will perpetually be killing each other, to the point where they simply are the entire country just gets tired of it. Go back for bombing when necessary. India or Russia have more to lose in Afghan - let the instability be their problem.

There was never anything of value in Afghanistan and there is no way for America to civilize a backward people.

As to the threat of terror - simply ban anyone from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and approx. 15 other M.E. countries / North African countries from entering the USA.

I do believe


11 posted on 02/07/2014 10:54:46 AM PST by PGR88
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To: DoodleDawg

That’s the mindset of defeat.


12 posted on 02/07/2014 10:54:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve never been a fan of sending the military to win the hearts and minds of people.
I am more of a fan of sending the military to break things and kill people.


13 posted on 02/07/2014 10:55:28 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: PGR88

Imitating Carter wouldn’t have worked.


14 posted on 02/07/2014 10:55:31 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s what should have happened.


15 posted on 02/07/2014 10:55:49 AM PST by Olog-hai
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If I recall, the Ruskies said the same thing back in 1980. Oh well, as they say, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity? Yeh....that works.


16 posted on 02/07/2014 10:56:08 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Olog-hai

Situations like Afghanistan are what NUKES were created for.


17 posted on 02/07/2014 10:56:35 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: grania

One of our local female national guardsmen went over there as some kind of liaison to Afghan women. She went over there with high hopes.

Now she says the only way to fix Afghanistan is to kill everything on 2 legs over 10 years old. She says that we shouldn’t feel sorry for the women either, they’re just as bad if not worse than the men.


18 posted on 02/07/2014 10:57:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mosaicwolf

The “Russkies” didn’t understand their enemy, their outlook being clouded by their communist ideology.

What makes things so bad here is that we did understand the enemy, and punted the ball to them anyway.


19 posted on 02/07/2014 10:57:50 AM PST by Olog-hai
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I don’t want to see one more IED going off while we’re trying to win hearts and minds. Get out and if they act up again send in the bombers again.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 11:00:48 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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