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THE BIBLE'S AGE FOR THE EARTH
CreationMoments ^ | Feb 7, 2014 | CreationMoments et al

Posted on 02/07/2014 3:11:21 PM PST by fwdude

Genesis 1:1
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”

Just when was the “beginning” when God created the heavens and the earth, as spoken of in Genesis 1:1? In these days when scientists talk about “billions” of years, the question of what the Bible says on the matter of origins becomes even more important.

Archbishop James UssherFew people doubt that the Bible intends to teach that the creation is young. The genealogies of the Old Testament are actual reproductions of the calendar system used in most ancient times.

While the subject is very complicated, we can share with you the calculations done by some well-known Christians. You are probably familiar with Bishop Ussher’s calculation that creation took place in 4004 B.C. But did you know that no less than the great scientist Kepler calculated that creation took place in 3877? Martin Luther calculated that creation took place in 3961 B.C. The very oldest ages arrived at through calculations based on Scripture say the creation is about 7,500 years old.

For the Christian, the question of the age of the creation can only be answered on the basis of Scripture. There is no question that Scripture gives us more than enough information to conclude that the creation is young and that God wants us to know it. After that, it is simply a matter of whether we accept Scripture’s authority.

Prayer:
Dear Heavenly Father, help my thinking not to be conformed to this world, but help me to be transformed by Your renewing of my mind so that my faith in Your clear Word is unshakable. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Notes:
Painting: Archbishop James Ussher, painted by Peter Lely (1618–1680).


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution
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To: fwdude

It’s real simple. If you believe, then your Faith follows what the Bible says and you believe the Bible is 100% spot on. If one part of it you do not believe, then you are saying that God made a mistake. My God does not make mistakes. The Bible is 100% true because I believe in the death, burial and resurrection of my LORD Jesus Christ. I don’t worry about whether the earth is 6,000 days, six billion years, or whatever. God told me He created the earth. That was enough for me. He elected not to give us any greater details. One day in Heaven we will know all. I will worry about it then.


21 posted on 02/07/2014 3:26:18 PM PST by RetiredArmy (All that call upon His name shall be saved! HE is the ONLY way to heaven. Only HIM!!)
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To: fwdude

The fact remains that the Creation occurred sometime around 6000 years ago or perhaps 7500 years ago or even just 5900 years ago. We have it pinpointed within 1500 years or so.

On the other hand, the Evolutionists admit that they could be billions of years off on their guess.


22 posted on 02/07/2014 3:28:47 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: fwdude
"That would be a question for Eve :)"

No way! It's impolite to look into a woman's age!!!

23 posted on 02/07/2014 3:29:16 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: Hostage
"Adam could very well have been in the Garden for a billion years."

Excellent point.

(One thing I am certain of, though - Jesus died for my sins, I accept Him as my savior, I will live with Him for eternity).

24 posted on 02/07/2014 3:29:39 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: fwdude

Give me that old time religion, it’s good enough for me!!!


25 posted on 02/07/2014 3:30:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: fwdude
It is not either / or. See:

Gerald Schroeder

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

26 posted on 02/07/2014 3:30:44 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Oliviaforever

“The fact”

Bzzzt. See my previous reply.


27 posted on 02/07/2014 3:30:49 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: DoughtyOne
A solid belief in this isn’t required for me to believe in God, Jesus and the sacrifice that was made for me and my fellow man. I figure in time I’ll get the answer I would like on it.

"There is no question that Scripture gives us more than enough information to conclude that the creation is young and that God wants us to know it. After that, it is simply a matter of whether we accept Scripture’s authority."

Do you? Can you not and still claim to hold all the "beliefs" you claim to?

28 posted on 02/07/2014 3:33:46 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude


29 posted on 02/07/2014 3:35:11 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Frapster
I have a question - how old was Adam when he was created?

Less than one second.

A follow up: how old did he look?

He was created a man.....so it's assumed (doesn't ever say) he was probably fully formed, had a beard and was able to reproduce. In other words............he had no childhood.

30 posted on 02/07/2014 3:35:19 PM PST by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: DManA

Bingo!
The only reason it is important is so the Left can label Conservatives as stupid.


31 posted on 02/07/2014 3:36:04 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Frapster
did he have an appearance that would be incongruous with his real age?

If you think about it, "age" was irrelevant to the original design because man was never created to die or, by implication, to even "age," with all of the deterioration that the word means to us.

32 posted on 02/07/2014 3:36:30 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Oliviaforever
On the other hand, the Evolutionists admit that they could be billions of years off on their guess.

No they don't. The timeline is actually rather specific, and the physical evidence extensive.

Unlike creationists, who have zero evidence to back up their arguments.


33 posted on 02/07/2014 3:37:35 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: DoughtyOne
Okay, and you think the issue is going to stick to a debate on the theories on the Biblical time frame? Is that right? Good luck with that.

Yes, I'll concede that I cannot control people going off on irrelevant tangents. It happens all the time on FR.

34 posted on 02/07/2014 3:38:00 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Few people doubt that the Bible intends to teach that the creation is young.

I'd like to know if the author asked anyone outside his congregation before making this determination.

35 posted on 02/07/2014 3:39:48 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Hostage
One cannot calculate based on the age of Adam at death. His age in years was from the time of his expulsion from Eden, not from the date of his creation.

Fair enough. But years existed, nevertheless - COUNTABLE years. So age existed, although it was irrelevant to Adam's original state.

36 posted on 02/07/2014 3:40:05 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
irrelevant tangents.

That is hilariously ironic on (yet another) creationist post.

37 posted on 02/07/2014 3:40:29 PM PST by DManA
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To: DoughtyOne
Am I confident that science has really nailed it at about 14 billion years old? Not really.

I know, it seems like it changes over time. When I was 8 years old in 1974, they said the Universe was 13 or 14 billion years old. By 1980 when I was a young teenager, it was 15, closer to 20 billion. Now it is 2014 and it is back to 14 billion like it was in 1974. Who really knows?
38 posted on 02/07/2014 3:40:41 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: fwdude

“In the beginning ... “

Is that in the beginning for God or just mankind? Clearly not for God because God always was and always will be. It could mean in the beginning for mankind as we know it.

I don’t believe God found it important for us to know every little detail. Was the world as we know it God’s first creation? I am not sure about that. I believe he created angels before he created man. God doesn’t find it necessary for us to know the exact details of all his creations.

I don’t fully understand all the details of creation but it does nothing to shake my faith that Jesus came to save the world. He was crucified and resurrected.


39 posted on 02/07/2014 3:40:46 PM PST by boycott
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To: Dutchboy88

What part of, “there was evening and there was morning, the first day,” is ambiguous about the clear meaning of scripture?


40 posted on 02/07/2014 3:41:37 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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