Posted on 02/14/2014 12:10:39 PM PST by neverdem
I am a subscriber to the NR dead tree. Except for Steyn and a couple of exceptions these are Republican-drumbeaters.
Fed up.
Is that the same Charlie Cook? I thought the NR had a young one from the UK.
Pat’s his own animal, but I have a hard time imagining him swooning over Boehner and Cantor like this.
*and McConnell*
4q
The roofs eventually going to fall in anyway, so let it happen sooner rather than later. I no longer care with this lousy government and the clowns in charge.
Thank you for correcting my error. Yes this is a different Cook(e) but it seems they are cut from the same cloth.
The debt should indeed be downgraded but only after new blood gets control of House and Senate or the Article COS gains serious substantial power to pass a Balanced Budget Amendment.
Then a debt downgrade with the budget resolution should be a wash.
It can’t keep going the way it is now; it just can’t. To guard the currency, we need real discipline and determined resolution.
How is he swooning? He wrote:
"Yet Boehner was holding a losing hand. Had he added a GOP wish-list bill to the debt ceiling, Harry Reid’s Senate would have rejected it. President Obama would have denounced it as putting at risk the full faith and credit of the United States.
"Big Media would have piled on. The markets would have been rattled. The Dow would have begun to swoon. Corporate America, cash cow of the Republican Party, would have begun to howl.
"A clamor to pass a clean debt ceiling bill or risk a new recession would have arisen. And the House Republicans would have caved, as they finally had to cave on the budget bill last fall."
If I didn't agree with his analysis, I would have linked the roll call votes when they were available after the votes. The pubbies were probably going to lose the PR war. Why lose for nothing?
So what did they win by surrendering?
I hate to lose, especially for nothing. Pick your fights when yor're going to win, e.g. amnesty for illegals is a loser. There's a reason to watch the polls. Obama's approval rating in polls is still too high, IMHO. Explaing economics to the general public is no mean feat.
OMG! Where is the PROJECTILE BARF ALERT on this one?
In answer to your question, I want debt REPUDIATION . Never mind a downgrade. Lest you think me operating several cards short of a deck, the demand side of the equation will never change. The lust for more spending will never cease. We have to look at the supply side.
They lose because they always sell out rather than put up an articulate fight. They are as good as on the same team as the Dems, as evidenced by their actually giving back a chunk of the sequester that they had won, not from putting up a good fight, but because of the Democrats’ miscalculation.
And, of course, they are always duplicitous in what they say and what they end up doing. There is no decent defense of the GOP leadership in the party, the Senate, or the House.
I wrote in comment 26: "Do you want the debt downgraded? That's different from the question of whether McConnell and Boehner should be replaced."
I meant credit rating downgraded, but I hve no problem replacing them. I think they should be replaced for a number of reasons.
What is it, a dozen times in the last decade that something was successfully negotiated with the raising of the debt ceiling?
But as I was trying to convey before, they already failed by it coming down to this. They play the same deceitful games of pretending that a slight slowing of a particular rate of growth is a ‘cut’ and they already gave up the store so many times over—e.g., funding Obamacare rather than delaying it, giving back the sequester, then trying to shave military pensions of all things, another obscene farm bill, another massive, bloated budget, etc., etc.—that they shouldn’t be given credit for yet one more cave in.
NRO praises RiNO’s. Film at eleven.
Is Pat Buchanan a RINO? Check the link in comment# 26.
You said that four times in this thread alone .... and twice in the other one ..... I think that's called "spamming".
Besides, it's a false dichotomy. One needn't capitulate to Obama and the Media every time, in order to be a pillar of financial probity.
But please admit that capitulation and cowardice is what it is, that Boehner and the RNC are doing. Then let's move along.
Of course, it's a couple of other things, too, but by now you've proved you don't want to talk about that. Namely, that Chamber of Commerce bagmen wanted the GOP to roll over so their bond holdings wouldn't get rattled -- never mind that it's Obama's policies that are degrading the economy and the credit of the People of the United States.
So how come your favorite Chamber "K" Street bagmen never jump all over Obama the way they do the Tea Party?
Wanna dance now?
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