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Kraut isn't always right, but I think he is pretty close here....trouble is, will the Republican party listen?
1 posted on 02/21/2014 2:41:36 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Kraut speaks like a former Mondale Staffer.


2 posted on 02/21/2014 2:46:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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3 posted on 02/21/2014 2:46:55 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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The last rule of the scientific method is to go back and recheck/reevaluate everything, it is never finished. Science is not consensus of some people.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 2:48:12 PM PST by mountainlion
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Some would prefer another ice age.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 2:51:57 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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He is right except for his concession that something must be wrong with CO2. It’s plant food. The tons mankind releases into the atmosphere is still miniscule compared to naturally released sources and the total amount in the atmosphere. CO2 has been far higher in the past and had no adverse effect on plants, animals or the climate. It is ignorance of a high order to consider it a pollutant.


6 posted on 02/21/2014 2:54:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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"spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere"

From UCSB ScienceLine:

During their lifetimes, plants generally give off about half of the carbon dioxide (CO2), that they absorb, although this varies a great deal between different kinds of plants. Once they die, almost all of the carbon that they stored up in their bodies is released again into the atmosphere.

7 posted on 02/21/2014 2:57:03 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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The only way to change the weather is to redistribute wealth.


9 posted on 02/21/2014 2:59:59 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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“I’ve long believed that it cannot be good for humanity to be spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.”

The atmosphere has a mass of about 6,000,000,000,000,000 tons (6 million gigatons (GT)). Of this, 0.039% is carbon dioxide from all sources.

The atmosphere contains 720 GT of CO2. The oceans contain 37,400 GT of suspended carbon, land biomass has 2000-3000 GT.

And humans contribute only 6 GT. The oceans, land and atmosphere exchange CO2 continuously so the additional load by humans is incredibly small.

This becomes very obvious when you look at the land-ocean-atmospheric carbon cycle.

To even suggest that mankind is influencing this is like saying that a bacteria is forcing a flea to force an elephant to go in a particular direction.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 3:12:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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‘Settled Science’ is a term used by the lazy the uninformed science challenged or functional idiots..
It is a political designation for propaganda purposes.. or a fund raising gambit..


13 posted on 02/21/2014 3:14:00 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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There is no such thing as settled science. The computers generate predictions from theories. The report of every result from a computer simulation should begin with Theoretically, if we assume ....
14 posted on 02/21/2014 3:16:09 PM PST by Marylander
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I've long believed that it cannot be good for humanity to be spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

No, but the plants love it.

And they reward us by spewing tons of oxygen into the atmosphere.

17 posted on 02/21/2014 3:23:29 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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“The debate is settled,” asserted propagandist-in-chief Barack Obama in his latest State of the Union address. “Climate change is a fact.”

Really? Does this moron actually believe that the facticity or truth of something can be determined by the result of a debate?

Perhaps a debate might conclude that it is perfectly safe to put a loaded gun to one's head and pull the trigger. Only a moron would conclude that this was indeed a "fact". And only an even dumber moron would go out and predicate policy on such a 'fact".

Just how dumb is this moron acting as President, anyway?

22 posted on 02/21/2014 3:43:02 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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I see this ridiculous attitude all the time on LENR threads.


24 posted on 02/21/2014 3:50:25 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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I prefer Krauthammer to most in his field of punditry.

But, he says:

“I’ve long believed that it cannot be good for humanity to be spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.”

Why, because it’s “spewed”?


25 posted on 02/21/2014 3:54:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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They struck first with “deniers” and we responded with “climate alarmists”, but I think it’s time to take it to the next level and refer to anyone who parrots the “climate is settled” and/or “97% of all scientists...” baloney as a “climate cultist,” for that’s exactly what they are, members of a cult that has become immune to factual information.

As soon as someone, in any position whatsoever, spews out either of those phrases they should immediately be told, “Oh, you’re one of those climate cultists. Okay then,” and then change the subject as you would when confronted by a member of any cult with their fact-free diatribes.

Anyone spewing those statements does so to shut down rational argument, so let that happen, but not without first labeling them clearly for what they’ve become, members of the cult of global warming.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 4:07:18 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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I’ve long believed that it cannot be good for humanity to be spewing tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Then stop breathing, dummy!

29 posted on 02/21/2014 4:13:50 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Kraut isn't always right, but I think he is pretty close here....trouble is, will the Republican party listen?

Who are the RINOs believing global warming BS?

31 posted on 02/21/2014 5:02:01 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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Sciens is never settled.

Just ask Galileo.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:01 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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http://creation.com/crichton-on-scientific-consensus


39 posted on 02/21/2014 5:45:24 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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"Climate change is a fact."

Well, yes, but so what? The earth's climate has been changing since it's beginning. And the alternative to that is climate stasis, which has never occurred in the 4.5 billion years of earth's existence.

This is what bothers me, though. Assuming that human beings have a dramatic affect on climate, if we were to do what the climate change cultists want, that would necessarily involve, well, changing the climate. Apart from doing what they claim is a bad thing, they don't tell us what the ideal climate of the earth is -- what it should be changed to.

41 posted on 02/21/2014 9:48:40 PM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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