Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo
PoliticusUSA ^ | February 22, 2014 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 02/22/2014 2:15:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So we have reached the aporia of the Right’s main argument against President Obama, wherein their arguments are deconstructing themselves via their own rhetoric undermining their claims.

Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president. And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.

Leading this charge is the still bitter Sarah Palin, whose behavior post 2008 loss makes John McCain’s look magnanimous and mature. Palin posited that after Obama left Americans for “destroyed”, the press finally woke up. Palin seems to miss the fact that she is still free after all of these many years of traitor-adjacent behavior to write and speak whatever she pleases, no matter how egregious, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

No brownshirts have come for Palin. Yet she wrote this on her Facebook page, as if Obama were Hitler, just as elected Republicans across the country inaccurately portray him:

"What? Lamestream calls for empathy, even outrage, for a First Amendment violation that’s on par with all the abuse we’ve brought to your attention as Obama stomps on our Constitution. You’ve IGNORED us, you’ve marginalized us, you’ve left us for “destroyed.” But when Obama’s boot is on YOUR neck you finally wake the h*ll up and cry foul? Good Lord."

Then she linked to this Breitbart article bemoaning the loss of freedom under this President, as if George W. Bush’s “free speech zones” and silencing of the Dixie Chicks had never happened.

They were for it before they were against it, apparently. (According to the very conservative ACLJ’s press release, the press actually had a “significant” First Amendment and free press victory today as the Obama administration pulled the plug on a newsroom “monitoring” system – aka, studying “perceived station bias.”, a thing conservatives are very against, as you might imagine.)

A dictator would never have allowed Sarah Palin to attack him while on foreign soil, during a time of war and while the country faced a huge financial crisis, no less. This is why the foreign press called Sarah Palin a traitor, while our own press continues to give her and her fellow Republicans (it says a lot about the party that Palin is no longer the most outrageous attack dog) access as if the things she says are not outrageous.

“And now she turns not only against the fibre and backbone of her country, but against its democratically elected President… “

That was in 2010, and Sarah Palin and the GOP have hardly let up since then.

While the right gets Martin Bashir fired for his suggestion that Sarah Palin might not think policy issues were just like slavery if she actually knew anything about slavery, when the Dixie Chicks said they were ashamed that Bush was from Texas, their music was shut out by mainstream outlets around the country:

"Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush’s plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time."

The Right has a very selective sense of free speech and free press.

And while the finer points of their failed arguments can be endlessly mocked, it really comes down to one thing. If Obama really were the dictator they accuse him of being, none of them would be free to continue accusing him of being a dictator.

If you are allowed to have public discussions about executive branch decisions with which you disagree, and you are not being shunned for it or fired over it, then you are most likely not living under a dictator.

Living under a dictator would be more like it was under George W. Bush, when even “liberal Hollywood” shrank in fear of being accused of being unpatriotic. So they turned their backs on Michael Moore’s March 23, 2003 Oscar speech — and on film sets in the weeks that followed, hard core liberals expressed disdain for the disrespect for our president, calling Moore’s behavior uncivilized (public shaming is a good silencer). I was there.

What was Moore’s crime? He spoke out against the war Bush had just started, just days prior. This is what he said that caused such a disruption — compare this to what Republicans say every single day about a President who did NOT lead us into a war on false pretenses. Moore referenced the way Bush was not really elected (a fact, he was appointed by the United States Supreme Court), and that the war was based on fictitious reasons (also true):

"We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious President.

We — We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
 Whether it’s the fictition of duct tape or the fictitious [sic] of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush.

Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.

And any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."

So it’s odd that Republicans keep accusing President Obama of being exactly what George W. Bush was in reality — a fake president, with dictator-esque tendencies. Under Bush, this country edged closer to a state of fascism, in which the people were kept in line through constant fear. People were arrested for wearing t-shirts that criticized Bush. ABC reported:

The Bush administration has agreed to pay $80,000 to a husband and wife who were ejected from a presidential rally because of their anti-Bush T-shirts. The settlement ends a suit brought by a Texas couple and the American Civil Liberties Union, claiming the couple’s First Amendment rights were violated when they were arrested and removed from a taxpayer-funded event featuring President Bush because their shirts read “Love America, Hate Bush” and “Regime Change Starts at Home.”

From terror alert levels to arrests for wearing the wrong t-shirt near the President to having your business ruined because you spoke out against what turned out to be an illegal war, things were bleak under Bush.

It turns out that Moore was correct. A boot on your neck? PBS reported, “And Moore was booed, stalked and threatened for it. He had to get a security detail to protect him from the death threats (some of which were encouraged by the media), and he claims that Homeland Security scratched up his Oscar at the airport on the way home.”

When you are openly criticizing the President of the United States and not too subtly trying to incite an overthrow of the government because you are still bitter that you lost to him, and no one comes to arrest you, the President is not a dictator. When you are still invited to have a reality TV show funded in part by the taxpayers of this country, the President is not a dictator. When you are still deemed to be civilized company and not being shunned for daring to suggest that you oppose something the President is doing, the President is not a dictator.

That is one fact of which you can be sure: President Obama is not a dictator and he is not silencing dissent. The proof is the fact that Sarah Palin is not in Gitmo. She is, in fact, making a living off of taxpayer money that Obama could easily put a stop to if he were that kind of petty, thin-skinned dictator — were he a Chris Christie type, for example, or a Nixon, or a Bush.

Note: For the fact challenged who got Martin Bashir fired, I did not say Sarah Palin should be in Gitmo. I am against Gitmo, just as Bashir is against slavery.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; michaelmoore; obama; palin; sarahpalin; stupid
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-130 next last
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Part of me says, "I wish he would try it." [Put Sarah Palin in Gitmo], but reality sets in and I realize that if he tried to, he would probably succeed. We haven't stood up to him on anything yet, so why start then? [If he tries to put Sarah Palin or any other popular Conservative in Gitmo.

In reality Obama does as he pleases and when he pleases.

41 posted on 02/22/2014 2:41:31 PM PST by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is described by what HE DOES not what his detractors “remain free” to do. Obama is in fact on the traditional arc for Evil.


42 posted on 02/22/2014 2:41:32 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #43 Removed by Moderator

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

1) They werent gun sights. They were surveyor marks, moron

2) she wasnt referring to criticism of her speech as “blood libel”. After the shooting, liberals in and out of the news media were pointing fingers at those of us on the right, trying to pin blame on us (when the shooter was a left winger). Thats what she was accurately calling a blood libel. Falsely blaming a crime on a group of people who had nothing to do with it.


44 posted on 02/22/2014 2:42:33 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This loser a negroid?


45 posted on 02/22/2014 2:43:26 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Didn’t a certain hag say “dissent is patriotic”? Hmmmm, I forgot what her name was but it rhymes with Nazi’..


46 posted on 02/22/2014 2:43:43 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo

The psychological term for this is projection. What this liberal is really saying here is that she would like to throw all Conservatives into a concentration camp if she could get away with it. I'll bet O'Bastard feels the same way.

47 posted on 02/22/2014 2:44:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This loser a negroid?


48 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:03 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ya gotta read the few comments at the link! They’re a hoot!


49 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:39 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

A few years ago dissent was patriotic, now it is almost treason. lol


50 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:58 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, first off Obama isn’t a Dictator. He’s a Tyrant. Tyrant is one step from Dictator.

As for Noam Chomsky, don’t worry about him. A genius he may be on linguistics, but he’s been outed as a Socialist disguising as an anarchist disguising as a left leaning libertarian — tending towards actually Communist and outed for a long time, and full of confirmation biases.

Nobody really quotes him today, nor listens to his political views anymore. Aside from his academics, history will have little use for him in the political and philosophical categories.


51 posted on 02/22/2014 2:46:28 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kitkat

Sarah seems to have all the right enemies, doesn’t she?


52 posted on 02/22/2014 2:46:31 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reasoning - that arresting political opponents equals dictatorship - does provide a bright line, and there is a certain usefulness to this. By this argument, Madura of Venezuela is a dictator but Vladimir Putin isn’t.

However, the real world is characterized by a continuum. Usually, a graduates incrementally from democratic to dictatorial. Madura, in Venezuela, came very close to absolutely disarming the people. Democrats, in the U.S., want to take steps in that direction.

Generally, the opposition party is more sensitive to civil liberties than the ruling party. With some notable exceptions, it was the Democrats who criticized Bush for trampling on the Constitution, just as today it is the Republicans who criticize Obama.

People who deny such things as shades of grey and the role of the opposition in a democracy merely display their ignorance of how the world works.


53 posted on 02/22/2014 2:47:01 PM PST by Redmen4ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lion Den Dan
“aporia,” What the heck does this word mean?

Link

1 : an expression of real or pretended doubt or uncertainty especially for rhetorical effect
2 : a logical impasse or contradiction; especially : a radical contradiction in the import of a text or theory that is seen in deconstruction as inevitable

I was curious too, so I looked it up.

54 posted on 02/22/2014 2:47:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The most amazing thing about this article is that it appears “journalists” like Sarah Jones believe the regime can and will protect them.


55 posted on 02/22/2014 2:47:29 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama hasn't had to send Sarah or any of his detractors into Gitmo or have them bumped off because he has the MSM to do his marginalizing for him.
56 posted on 02/22/2014 2:48:14 PM PST by vetvetdoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Westbrook

bttt


57 posted on 02/22/2014 2:49:11 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
If obamateur were a dictator ... well, let's just say that dictators often meet unpleasant fates. Hitler did. Mussolini did. Causescu did. Nikolas II did. Louis XVI did. Napoleon did. Etc.

That he hasn't succeeded doesn't mean he isn't trying.

58 posted on 02/22/2014 2:50:20 PM PST by IronJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Still Thinking

I’ve never called Obama Hitler. I’ve said he is an affirmative action Hitler. A rather incompetent copy of the original with some of Hitler’s speech making capability without Hitler’s skill of giving a speech by memory.


59 posted on 02/22/2014 2:51:57 PM PST by Stepan12 (Sptar)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Such a stupid contention. I guess, according to this chick, just Sarah using the term "Dictator" is silly, because she's not in jail, so Obama couldn't possibly be one. Anyway, according to leftists, the term Dictator should ONLY be used for right wingers. Witness, they never used that term for Lenin, Stalin, or Mao.

Sarah is WARNING us of Obama's actions, which are bordering on the dictatorial, by pointing out Obama's pronouncements and Executive Orders. These show that he has no intention of being held to the laws of this country.

60 posted on 02/22/2014 2:54:44 PM PST by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-130 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson