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Syrian Kurds Capture Town from Islamists
Arutz Sheva ^ | 23/2/14 | Elad Benari

Posted on 02/22/2014 9:44:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5

A Kurdish group captured a town in Syria from Islamists on Saturday, in a battle in which at least 28 fighters were killed, most of them Islamists, Reuters reported, citing a monitoring group.

If the Kurds can keep hold of Tal Brak, on a highway between the cities of Hassaka and Qamishli, it would mark a significant advance in their quest for wider control in the northeast.

Online Islamist activists said fighting was still going on, but the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the Kurdish People's Protection Units had taken the town.

Syrian Kurds have been fighting Islamist rebel groups for quite some time. This is essentially a third war in Syria, in addition to the war between President Bashar Al-Assad’s troops and rebels, and a war between moderate rebel groups and Islamist rebel groups.

The Kurds have expanded their sway in the northeast, where they are setting up their own administration, since the revolt against Assad began three years ago.

In December, Kurds in northeastern Syria officially announced the creation of an autonomous Kurdish government in the region. The move followed a series of military victories against Islamist rebel groups.

On Saturday, the People's Protection Units said in a statement they had taken Tal Brak after a midnight assault on fighters of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) and other militants.

It said Kurdish fighters were in possession of the bodies of 16 of the 50 "armed mercenaries" they had killed, and had taken 42 prisoners. It said three Kurdish fighters had also been killed.

The Syrian Observatory, an opposition-affiliated watchdog, said at least 25 Islamists had been killed.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armenia; azerbaijan; iran; iraq; islamists; kppu; kurdistan; kurds; lebanon; syria; talbrak; turkey
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Potential members in EMA (Eastern Minorities Alliance)

Israel India South Sudan CAR Armenia Greece Cyprus Greater Kurdistan (under construction) Balluchistan (yet to be) All-a-witeland (yet to be) Coptland (exists in my imagination along the Red Sea coastline bordering Israel) Southern Lebanon (Christian and Druze enclave, also only in my imagination so far) Christian Syria (Northeast slopes of Golan/Hermon, also only in my imagination) Christians in Bethlehem and environs

How's that for a peace process?

1 posted on 02/22/2014 9:44:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Bad freep software. Bad. Line breaks erased without so much as one https symbol.

2 posted on 02/22/2014 9:45:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

If anyone has the right to draw a border, create a state, mind their own business, and kill any intruders, it is the Kurds.

3 posted on 02/22/2014 9:46:46 PM PST by lurk
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Let’s see the US, Obama Media form the same combination of words; Syrian Kurds.

4 posted on 02/22/2014 9:49:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: lurk

They’re so eager to be generous with Israel’s territory, so Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran ought to be the first to donate a huge chunk of theirs to the creation of a Greater Kurdistan. Two peoples, two states, after all.

5 posted on 02/22/2014 9:50:18 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Gene Eric

MSM: Kurds? Didn’t Miss Muffet eat them or something?

6 posted on 02/22/2014 9:51:20 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Our hero, Joe Biden wanted Iraq divided into an area for the Kurds. Maybe we(U) should have listened.

7 posted on 02/22/2014 10:00:16 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yes, because they were in the whey.

Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

8 posted on 02/22/2014 10:03:48 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Yes, because they were in the whey. Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

9 posted on 02/22/2014 10:09:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator


10 posted on 02/22/2014 10:10:12 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: dfwgator

Ha, ha, very good!

Don’t forget Curly’s famous foreign policy line - we’ll use Turkey to wipe up Greece!

11 posted on 02/22/2014 10:13:22 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: lurk

I agree. From my home page...


Here’s what I wrote on the subject of Iran, Iraq & Afghanistan a while back.

To: NormsRevenge
We SHOULD withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran.

Here’s how I think we should “pull out of Iraq.” Add one more front to the scenario below, which would be a classic amphibious beach landing from the south in Iran, and it becomes a “strategic withdrawal” from Iraq. And I think the guy who would pull it off is Duncan Hunter.

How to Stand Up to Iran
Posted by Kevmo to TomasUSMC
On News/Activism 03/28/2007 7:11:08 PM PDT • 36 of 36

Split Iraq up and get out
***The bold military move would be to mobilize FROM Iraq into Iran through Kurdistan and then sweep downward, meeting up with the forces that we pull FROM Afghanistan in a 2-pronged offensive. We would be destroying nuke facilities and building concrete fences along geo-political lines, separating warring tribes physically. At the end, we take our boys into Kurdistan, set up a couple of big military bases and stay awhile. We could invite the French, Swiss, Italians, Mozambiqans, Argentinians, Koreans, whoever is willing to be the police forces for the regions that we move through, and if the area gets too hot for these peacekeeper weenies we send in military units. Basically, it would be learning the lesson of Iraq and applying it.

15 rules for understanding the Middle East

Rule 8: Civil wars in the Arab world are rarely about ideas — like liberalism vs. communism. They are about which tribe gets to rule. So, yes, Iraq is having a civil war as we once did. But there is no Abe Lincoln in this war. It’s the South vs. the South.

Rule 10: Mideast civil wars end in one of three ways: a) like the U.S. civil war, with one side vanquishing the other; like the Cyprus civil war, with a hard partition and a wall dividing the parties; or c) like the Lebanon civil war, with a soft partition under an iron fist (Syria) that keeps everyone in line. Saddam used to be the iron fist in Iraq. Now it is us. If we don’t want to play that role, Iraq’s civil war will end with A or B.

Let’s say my scenario above is what happens. Would that military mobilization qualify as a “withdrawal” from Iraq as well as Afghanistan? Then, when we’re all done and we set up bases in Kurdistan, it wouldn’t really be Iraq, would it? It would be Kurdistan.


I have posted in the past that I think the key to the strategy in the middle east is to start with an independent Kurdistan. If we engaged Iran in such a manner we might earn back the support of these windvane politicians and wussie voters who don’t mind seeing a quick & victorious fight but hate seeing endless police action battles that don’t secure a country.

I thought it would be cool for us to set up security for the Kurds on their southern border with Iraq, rewarding them for their bravery in defying Saddam Hussein. We put in some military bases there for, say, 20 years as part of the occupation of Iraq in their transition to democracy. We guarantee the autonomy of Iraqi Kurdistan as long as they don’t engage with Turkey. But that doesn’t say anything about engaging with Iranian Kurdistan. Within those 20 years the Kurds could have a secure and independent nation with expanding borders into Iran. After we close down the US bases, Kurdistan is on her own. But at least Kurdistan would be an independent nation with about half its territory carved out of Persia. If Turkey doesn’t relinquish her claim on Turkish Kurdistan after that, it isn’t our problem, it’s 2 of our allies fighting each other, one for independence and the other for regional primacy. I support democratic independence over a bullying arrogant minority.

The kurds are the closest thing we have to friends in that area. They fought against Saddam (got nerve-gassed), they’re fighting against Iran, they squabble with our so-called ally Turkey (who didn’t allow Americans to operate in the north of Iraq this time around).

It’s time for them to have their own country. They deserve it. They carve Kurdistan out of northern Iraq, northern Iran, and try to achieve some kind of autonomy in eastern Turkey. If Turkey gets angry, we let them know that there are consequences to turning your back on your “friend” when they need you. If the Turks want trouble, they can invade the Iraqi or Persian state of Kurdistan and kill americans to make their point. It wouldn’t be a wise move for them, they’d get their backsides handed to them and have eastern Turkey carved out of their country as a result.

If such an act of betrayal to an ally means they get a thorn in their side, I would be happy with it. It’s time for people who call themselves our allies to put up or shut up. The Kurds have been putting up and deserve to be rewarded with an autonomous and sovereign Kurdistan, borne out of the blood of their own patriots.

Should Turkey decide to make trouble with their Kurdish population, we would stay out of it, other than to guarantee sovereignty in the formerly Iranian and Iraqi portions of Kurdistan. When one of our allies wants to fight another of our allies, it’s a messy situation. If Turkey goes “into the war on Iran’s side” then they ain’t really our allies and that’s the end of that.

I agree that it’s hard on troops and their families. We won the war 4 years ago. This aftermath is the nation builders and peacekeeper weenies realizing that they need to understand things like the “15 rules for understanding the Middle East”

This was the strategic error that GWB committed. It was another brilliant military campaign but the followup should have been 4X as big. All those countries that don’t agree with sending troups to fight a war should have been willing to send in policemen and nurses to set up infrastructure and repair the country.

What do you think we should do with Iraq?

Posted by Kevmo to Blue Scourge
On News/Activism 12/12/2006 9:17:33 AM PST • 23 of 105

My original contention was that we should have approached the reluctant “allies” like the French to send in Police forces for the occupation after battle, since they were so unwilling to engage in the fighting. It was easy to see that we’d need as many folks in police and nurse’s uniforms as we would in US Army unitorms in order to establish a democracy in the middle east. But, since we didn’t follow that line of approach, we now have a civil war on our hands. If we were to set our sights again on the police/nurse approach, we might still be able to pull this one off. I think we won the war in Iraq; we just haven’t won the peace.

I also think we should simply divide the country. The Kurds deserve their own country, they’ve proven to be good allies. We could work with them to carve out a section of Iraq, set their sights on carving some territory out of Iran, and then when they’re done with that, we can help “negotiate” with our other “allies”, the Turks, to secure Kurdish autonomy in what presently eastern Turkey.

That leaves the Sunnis and Shiites to divide up what’s left. We would occupy the areas between the two warring factions. Also, the UN/US should occupy the oil-producing regions and parcel out the revenue according to whatever plan they come up with. That gives all the sides something to argue about rather than shooting at us.

38 posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:55:19 PM by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)


12 posted on 02/22/2014 10:17:43 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Eleutheria5

God bless those Kurds. They think a lot like us.

13 posted on 02/22/2014 10:25:10 PM PST by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her baby, he is reminded of his mother.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The Kurds are the only ones I support in this Syrian mess. I would like to see them carve out a homeland that stretches to the sea.

14 posted on 02/22/2014 10:37:04 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: lurk

I was thinking the same thing.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 10:54:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

what see?

16 posted on 02/22/2014 10:56:22 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Slyfox

Best of all, they’re killing Islamofascists. I’m in favor of that.

17 posted on 02/22/2014 10:57:19 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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I was fine with that, but not in a position to make it happen.

18 posted on 02/22/2014 11:02:59 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Curious... aren’t Kurds also Islamists?

19 posted on 02/23/2014 2:49:59 AM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Bikkuri

The Kurds are Muslims.

But they are the kind of Muslims that will sit down and have a drink with you, help you build a church and dress their daughters in western dress (conservative) as They send them to school...

Very live and let live...

20 posted on 02/23/2014 9:00:51 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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