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Ukraine Crisis: Russia Brands New Leaders "Mutineers" (We All Knew This Was Coming Alert)
BBC News ^ | 2/24/2014 | BBC News

Posted on 02/24/2014 8:12:05 AM PST by goldstategop

Mr Medvedev, quoted by Russian news agencies, suggested that Western countries that accepted Ukraine's new authorities were mistaken.

"Strictly speaking, there is no-one for us to communicate with there today," he said.

"The legitimacy of a whole number of organs of power that function there raises great doubts.

"Some of our foreign, Western partners think otherwise. This is some kind of aberration of perception when people call legitimate what is essentially the result of an armed mutiny."

He added: "We do not understand what is going on there. There is a real threat to our interests and to the lives of our citizens."

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However, Russia's foreign ministry also issued a strongly worded statement saying a "forced change of power" was taking place in Ukraine and that interim authorities were using "terrorist methods" to pressure dissenters in regions including Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crisis; maidan; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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To: goldstategop
they’re attached to the Russian and culture

"dominated by" might be more appropriate. In any event, there's no "they" "there". Read the article I linked to for some idea of the wide range of opinion/emotion.
41 posted on 02/24/2014 12:11:54 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: goldstategop
Putin will bend over and take it just like he did last time when Yanukovich was overthrown by the Orange Revolution. Ukraine is not Georgia. Putin does not need to invade to keep his naval base and he doesn't need Ukraine's pipelines because he has the North Stream going directly to Germany. Putin only poses as a defender of “ethnic Russians” when he has something to gain. The Ossetians and Abkhazians he intervened in Georgia for are not even Russian, he just gave them Russian passports and made them Russian citizens. Actual Russians in Ukraine will be sold out by the treacherous gangster Putin because he doesn't need them. Just look at Yanukovich. Was Putin able to protect him? No. Yanukovich is learning the price of being the friend of KGB Putin. He has lost everything and now he has to flee to Russia and hide from his own countrymen who will kill him if the get their hands on him. Such will be the fate of all traitors who support Neo-Soviet Russia against their own country.
42 posted on 02/24/2014 1:02:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He can’t afford to get nothing out of it. I think Ukraine ceding the Crimea back to Russia is fair...considering the dubious reason it even became part of Ukraine in the first place.


43 posted on 02/24/2014 1:04:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
He has his naval base, so what else does he need the Crimea for? I'm telling you those Crimean "Russians" will be waiting a long time for Putin to ride in on his big white horse and save them. They will be waiting just as long as the Serbs who are still waiting for Putin to liberate Kosovo and the Syrian Christians who actually believe that Putin will protect them. People who put their hope in the psychotic mass-murderer Putin are fools.

Russia lost Crimea when they lost thair whole country to ravaging raping Bolshevik hordes (whom Putin still admires and considers the Founding Fathers of Russia.)

44 posted on 02/24/2014 1:17:39 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Their Parliament did this by the book, sure they were under a lot of pressure from the people... then again isn’t that a good thing?


45 posted on 02/24/2014 1:19:46 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: dfwgator

>>>Maybe they should consult with the Czechs and Slovaks.<<<

It won’t happen. Every major population center in Western Ukraine is practically insolvent, with the exception of Lviv, which is barely solvent. It is a norm for a Western city to leech Kiev for as much as 5 times the sum it actually made in taxes, just to maintain infrastructure.
Remember, today Ukraine doing about half as good as Mexico economically. If they are going to lose the Southeast it will turn them into Somalia. It is certainly not a plan for the West as far as they love free money.


46 posted on 02/24/2014 4:30:23 PM PST by cunning_fish
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47 posted on 02/24/2014 4:34:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: goldstategop
Custom Union joined Vietnam and Montenegro, quite probably Turk and Israel will join for Russia is their main trade partner. Ukraine proved as unstable for any business and too poor with obsolete and deteriorating industry and infrastructure. They always will ask money with no prospects to return them. All their authorities were, are and will be corrupt.
48 posted on 02/24/2014 5:36:54 PM PST by Cossak
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To: cunning_fish

Stop whining, your guy lost, get over it


49 posted on 02/24/2014 5:41:43 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: goldstategop
take all the necessary steps to protect its interests and the lives of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine

Russian-speaking people of Ukraine like in Kyiv who kicked Putins's stooge out?

The faster that Russians deal with reality, the less it's going to hurt later - nobody wants you or your Putin. Less Zhirinovskiy, more news was from Ukrainian new sites

50 posted on 02/24/2014 5:55:49 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: goldstategop

If only it was Western Ukraine that was the problem. KIEV and central Ukraine don’t want Russia either. And losing Kiev - ouch - that hurts.


51 posted on 02/24/2014 6:04:19 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: dfwgator

Western Ukrainians are natives so them have no land to move back. And it looks nobody is happy with them


52 posted on 02/24/2014 6:09:13 PM PST by Cossak
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To: pierrem15

Biggest and more real danger to Ukrainians is state their economy. They have no money to pay pensions, to support state activity. Ukrainians must be ready to marauding gangs for they destroyed police. Nobody sane enough will give money to this fault state.


53 posted on 02/24/2014 6:22:28 PM PST by Cossak
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yanukovich is not KGB friend as he fooled not once Putin an Russian - speaking electorate who voted for him. He is not welcomed in Russia, he is in Eastern Ukraine now and there is no place in the World for him to hide. His all allegiance was to his money and power only and he lost all. If benderovtsy will murder him of vengeance it will alert those Ukrainians who are against them. Have you seen video from Odessa town how warmly locals greeted Ukronazis while police smoked by the corner?
54 posted on 02/24/2014 6:44:37 PM PST by Cossak
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To: Ivan Mazepa

>>Stop whining, your guy lost, get over it<<

‘My guy’? LOL. Yanukovitz is a perfect product of a Ukrainian political establishment.
Every leader in your modern history is someone’s else stooge, be that someone Clinton, Putin or Merkel.
Maybe the problem is with a society, which needs a revolution every time your government fails to meet expectations? It is third or fourth revolt since 1990 if memory serves me well.
Ukrainians are circling the bowl the way known substance does, between East and West for all that time waiting for both sides to provide maximum free money. Every time their expectations fails they are rioting to get opposed fraction to office, with ties to another foreign country believed to deliver more goodies at the time. Yanukovitz is just another in a series of Ukrainian leaders stuffing his pockets while redistributing other people’s money. His affiliation to one or another foreign power is secondary.


55 posted on 02/24/2014 7:28:17 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
It is third or fourth revolt since 1990 if memory serves me well.

2004 Orange Revolution is #1, this one is second. (Unless you're counting collapse of USSR as one? There have been mass demonstrations at the time, but you're being too generous to credit Ukrainians for collapse of USSR)

There will be another and another and another revolt, as long as they're selecting politicians that keep failing them. The alternative is to give up on life, shut up and suffer in silence. It might be suitable for Russians, but Ukrainians have Cossack blood in them :)

Agree with Yanek being a Ukrainian creation. Foreign affiliation is what I meant by "your guy". RF placed a bet on him, he lost; RF is to admit they supported a pathetic tyrant and move on. Getting involved in an internal Ukrainian problem, like issuing threats to invade Crimea, that's not good.

56 posted on 02/24/2014 8:36:11 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

>>There will be another and another and another revolt, as long as they’re selecting politicians that keep failing them.<<

Who ‘they’re’? ‘Da Joooose’?:-)


57 posted on 02/24/2014 8:48:39 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Cossak
Have you seen video from Odessa town how warmly locals greeted Ukronazis while police smoked by the corner?

Do you have a link? I was in Odessa in November when protests in Kiev were just starting.

58 posted on 02/24/2014 9:37:09 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Debka says Russia is warming up the tanks


59 posted on 02/24/2014 9:40:30 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

>>Debka says Russia is warming up the tanks<<

GDR Uprising 1953
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLI7WenYho


60 posted on 02/24/2014 10:05:29 PM PST by cunning_fish
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