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FBI suspected iconic 1964 Ali-Liston fight was rigged by mob
The Washington Times ^ | 2/24/2014 | By Thom Loverro

Posted on 02/24/2014 9:00:19 PM PST by Mariner

Fifty years ago today, Muhammad Ali “shocked the world” and beat one of the most fearsome fighters ever to put on a pair of boxing gloves, heavyweight champion Sonny Liston.

But what if that storied fight was not what it seemed?

It happened Feb. 25, 1964, at the Miami Beach Convention Center. The film clip and sound bite have now become part of the American story — Liston quitting his stool before the eighth round, a young Cassius Clay, as Ali was known then, bouncing around the ring, waving his hands, yelling to the reporters at ringside who thought he would be killed by the more veteran boxer. “I’m king of the world! I’m king of the world!” Ali proclaimed.

Sports Illustrated named it the fourth-greatest sports moment of the 20th century. The fight also is the foundation of the Muhammad Ali story: the three-year heavyweight championship reign of dominance, followed by his three-year exile as he fought the Vietnam War draft. The Ali-Joe Frazier fights, the upset over George Foreman in Zaire, the reconstruction of Ali from a pariah to a national treasure. All of it begins with a brash Clay “shocking the world.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ali; boxing; cassiusclay; fbi; liston
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I say that IF Liston took a dive, her sure got hit HARD on the way down.
1 posted on 02/24/2014 9:00:19 PM PST by Mariner
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No surprise here. I always suspected that most of Cassius Clay’s big fights were rigged.


2 posted on 02/24/2014 9:06:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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You don't think he knocked all those guys out?

You think Joe Frazier agrees with you? George Foreman?

3 posted on 02/24/2014 9:09:10 PM PST by Mariner
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This ought to be good.


4 posted on 02/24/2014 9:11:35 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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5 posted on 02/24/2014 9:11:46 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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Angelo Dundee (Clay’s trainer)said that he couldn’t order up a better opponent from the Sears catalog for the young, swift Cassius. Liston was a slow, plodding big roundhouse puncher who was never extended more than a few rounds in years. He couldn’t hit Clay with a screen door.


6 posted on 02/24/2014 9:12:23 PM PST by Zuse
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To: Mariner

The big question in my mind is what did Howard Cosell know and when did he know it. Cosell made a name for himself pimping Cassius Clay to the American public — and seemed to think that the entire “rope-a-dope” fiasco was great fun. Didn’t bother Howard a bit when Clay weaseled his way out of serving his country.


7 posted on 02/24/2014 9:12:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Agreed. And what was the point of trying to blind Clay with the ointment if he knew he planning to throw the fight?


8 posted on 02/24/2014 9:13:17 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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A prize fight fixed by organized crime in America? What next?


9 posted on 02/24/2014 9:14:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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"Didn’t bother Howard a bit when Clay weaseled his way out of serving his country."

Is this the origin of your refusal to recognize his talent?

That's like saying Kate Upton is ugly because she cast her first vote for Obama.

10 posted on 02/24/2014 9:16:09 PM PST by Mariner
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They really should have investigated the Second Ali-Liston fight in May 1965. Liston clearly took a dive in the first round. Funny they wasted their time on the first fight, in which Liston took an unexpected beating. My guess is this is all unearthing of misinformation which an inept and compromised FBI swallowed uncritically.
11 posted on 02/24/2014 9:17:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Or, John Lennon couldn’t sing because he was a commie.


12 posted on 02/24/2014 9:17:34 PM PST by Mariner
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Well, I don’t know...are her famous assets real — or are they Memorex?

;^)


13 posted on 02/24/2014 9:18:11 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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They jiggle real:)


14 posted on 02/24/2014 9:18:46 PM PST by Mariner
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John Lennon was a no talent hack. And no, he couldn’t sing for a damn— even if he’d been part of “Up With People.”

(I’m really grouchy today. Need to catch up on my Metamucil)


15 posted on 02/24/2014 9:19:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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I know I will catch hell for this: Clay (or was he Ali by then?) gave up his crown for his beliefs.

The man put his money where his mouth is, no arguing that, and that says a lot about him.

16 posted on 02/24/2014 9:20:22 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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"FBI suspected iconic 1964
Ali-Liston fight was rigged by mob"


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17 posted on 02/24/2014 9:21:34 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Mariner

I’m all in favor of that!


18 posted on 02/24/2014 9:22:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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"gave up his crown for his beliefs"

I have no problem with a GENUINE Conscientious Objector.

It's the the fraudulent pu$$ies that I would line against the wall and shoot.

19 posted on 02/24/2014 9:23:19 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

This is not a new allegation.


20 posted on 02/24/2014 9:25:44 PM PST by Bratch
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