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The Coming Collapse of the Welfare State: We're running out of people; not just money
FrontPage Mag ^ | 02/25/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/25/2014 7:16:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: soycd
Add to that, our government is allowing the dregs of other countries to come here illegally and hand them a monthly checks.

How can we win the War On Poverty when our own government keeps helping millions of illegals to reenforce the other side?

21 posted on 02/25/2014 7:59:05 AM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: Iron Munro
Contrast to this statement;

. . . Japan shuns immigration . . .

No they don't. I've lived and worked there for more than 15 years. My brother and his wife and son are permanent residents there.

Japan can be welcoming to immigration . . . they just have a high bar. They don't take jag-offs from anywhere who just wants to live off the taxpayers.

Their immigration system is fairly simple: if you are determined to be a net benefit to Japanese society, then welcome. Otherwise, stay out or go home. Not all that tough to understand, really.

Most sane countries operate on comparable systems. Even relatively sparsely populated countries like Canada and New Zealand.

22 posted on 02/25/2014 8:09:27 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“We can’t just replace Americans with Mexicans.” It’s pretty much being done now and not just with Mexicans.

I was at the hospital yesterday and 4/5 pregnant women I saw are not “typical” Caucasian American women (and the one pregnant white woman I saw was a white trash); they are darker or have a different angle to their eyes.

The powers that be are importing (mostly illegally) the Americans that have either been aborted or never made to begin with (due to the destruction of the American society).

One HUGE problem with the importation of new “Americans” is that they have 0 knowledge (nor do they care to ever learn) about the country that’s feeding them. They have little to allegiance to the USA.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 8:10:32 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t they just force people to work more against their will? If that doesn’t work raise taxes.

In other news democrats think it is wonderful that people will not work as much so they can collect obamacare subsidies.


24 posted on 02/25/2014 8:21:19 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“We can’t just replace Americans with Mexicans.”

How about we replace the (presumably white) Americans with Chinese ?


25 posted on 02/25/2014 8:38:38 AM PST by staytrue
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To: soycd

And we ship the jobs of Americans to foreign lands, then we import their stuff on which neither they nor their employers pay SS. Foreign tax free stuff hurts American business and ruins the SS system.


26 posted on 02/25/2014 8:42:59 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Lurker

i caught that one right away too...

libertarians want as little government in their lives as they can get..

another dude trying to drive a wedge....


27 posted on 02/25/2014 8:50:51 AM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: joe fonebone; Lurker

>> Libertarians don’t want the government to take anything from anyone for these purposes.
>
> i caught that one right away too...
> libertarians want as little government in their lives as they can get..
> another dude trying to drive a wedge....

Perhaps the internal polls of the Statists show that the growing dissatisfaction and distrust of government if FAR more widespread than is even intuitively obvious to the casual observer. Driving wedges is the *ONLY* tool they have to hold on to their power, because they cannot stand up to even a significant minority of the people united together.


28 posted on 02/25/2014 9:10:04 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Using Karl Marx ‘s ideas to help the middle class is like using Adolph Hitler’s ideas to help the Jews.

But the middle class keeps voting for it.


29 posted on 02/25/2014 9:12:44 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: SomeCallMeTim

People with half a brain and a desire to WORK, will always be OK.


Pollyanna.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 9:26:55 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Graewoulf

Yea...I say Obama is a Trojan Horse....the very essence of Washington today, is the destruction/eradication of the white male....


31 posted on 02/25/2014 9:32:32 AM PST by B212
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To: Graewoulf

Yea...I say Obama is a Trojan Horse....the very essence of Washington today, is the destruction/eradication of the white male....


32 posted on 02/25/2014 9:33:57 AM PST by B212
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To: SeekAndFind

100 million illegal Mexicans should fix that


33 posted on 02/25/2014 9:39:22 AM PST by Old Yeller (P)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is an excellent commentary.
Thanks for posting it.

The only point I would argue with is old age spending. I personally believe the Death Panels will be a big benefit to the SocSec and Medicare budgets. Every year sliced off the lifespan is a big economic number, I’d guess.


34 posted on 02/25/2014 9:44:47 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Lurker

Thanks for beating me to it, anyone who is stupid enough to make such an asinine statement needs to pull his/her head out of his/her ass, wipe the crap from their eyes, and pay better attention to their keyboard.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 10:03:03 AM PST by nomad
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To: Lurker

I expect that driven from the Left; but more and more I see if here on FR as well.

Opinions and @ssholes, eh?


36 posted on 02/25/2014 10:27:44 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: cdcdawg

I’m sure there’s one in every crowd, but I’m reading that in their platform.

IMHO, the ‘solution’ to both IS reigning in the Federal leviathan. There is NO authority for wealth distribution and if there is no carrot, there would be WAY less illegal immigration (IE: no ‘free’ $$$ to entice).

It’s why I tend to identify as (L) or ‘Constitutionalist’; IMHO (again) ‘Convservative’ denotes no STARTING point (IE: Are we conserving 60’s America? 30’s? 20’? 1890’s?).


37 posted on 02/25/2014 10:39:19 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: little jeremiah
Pollyanna.

Guilty as charged.

MY grandfather told that 50 years ago. He said he learned it during the Great Depression.

I've seen very little since then to suggest he was wrong.

38 posted on 02/25/2014 10:48:15 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: volunbeer
The Federal Reserve is a problem, but let’s not pretend it’s the only problem. The author identified several issues that need to be addressed.

NO - the Fed IS the enabler of "Progressive" government. Imagine a government that would have to compete with private citizens for real money. Imagine a government that faced immediate consequences in the market when it ran huge deficits. The nanny state simply could not exist. Fix it, and 100 other problems as diverse as immigration and abortion, fix themselves at the same time.

39 posted on 02/25/2014 10:50:33 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SomeCallMeTim

During the great depression, almost all goods used by Americans were made in America.

People can work only if there are jobs available. And to start a small business, there have to be people with money to purchase the goods or services offered, AND no red tape regulations that strangle small businesses.

In the county I live in, the are few jobs, and the onerous taxes and regulations cause almost every small business started to fail within 2 years.

The only solution is to either grow marijuana, which unfortunately many people do, or move to another location, which is very difficult. To rent a person needs a huge lump of cash and a job. And a lot of people here own their homes, and it’s very hard to sell anything now.

So, I disagree with your viewpoint.


40 posted on 02/25/2014 11:22:01 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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