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As Countdown Looms, Israelís Moon Bid Already a Winner
Times of Israel ^ | February 23, 2014 | David Shamah

Posted on 02/25/2014 4:13:33 PM PST by lbryce

Daniel Saat, business development manager for SpaceIL, is reasonably confident that the lunar lander the Israeli spaceship organization is working on will beat out the competition and reach the moon, winning the big $30 million prize being offered by Google in its LunarX challenge. “Our intelligence sources tell us that Israel’s LunarX satellite is one of the two or three top contenders to win this contest,” Saat told The Times of Israel on Sunday.

And he’s also pretty certain the 140 kilogram spacecraft will actually land safely on the moon and perform the stunts Google requires to award the prize — move across the lunar surface, and beam back pictures of the event, instead of burn up in orbit over earth. “We’re 90% sure this is going to work,” said Saat. “Unfortunately it’s impossible to fully test the propulsion system on earth, because you can’t duplicate the conditions of space completely, and the amount of pollution released would be too high.”

What he is absolutely sure about, however, is that with SpaceIL, Israel has the makings of a new start-up growth area. “We expect a lot of intellectual property to flow from this, benefiting the economy in many ways,” said Saat. “Even that, however, is secondary to the inspiration a moonshot will produce among all Israelis, and especially among kids, whom we hope will be inspired to study science and engineering, two areas we need more kids to commit themselves to.”

SpaceIL’s mission, as the organization describes it, is to successfully build, launch into space, and land on the moon a space capsule, making Israel the fourth country in the world to achieve this. The capsule will constitute Israel’s entry into Google’s LunarX contest, which promises $30 million to the first team that can land an unmanned, robotic craft on the moon and carry out several missions — such as taking high-definition video and beaming it back to Earth, and exploring the surface of the moon by moving, or sending out a vehicle that will move, 500 meters along the moon’s surface.

In business for about two years, SpaceIL’s project is moving along at a healthy clip, said Saat, with just about all plans set in place. “We already have a prototype, and in the coming months we are going to start building the capsule itself,” he said. The target date for launch is the end of 2015 — which is the current Google deadline — though Google has moved the send-by date several times already, and if the deadline is extended, Space IL will also take some extra time to perfect the project.

At a press conference Sunday discussing the project, Yariv Bash, a co-founder of SpaceIL, said it sometimes seemed as if Google didn’t realize how challenging putting a spacecraft on the moon was for private organizations. “Many people say this is the hardest science contest ever,” Bash said. “Out of the 33 teams that have signed up for the contest since it was announced in 2007, 15 have already dropped out, and many of the others are likely to do so as well. At the end of the year we expect only ten teams to remain.”

Out of those, said Bash, Israel is a, if not the, top contender. “That’s what we hear, at least, from insiders at NASA who are on top of things.” space1

Daniel Saat (L) and Yariv Bash (Photo credit: Courtesy)

Rocket science, it turns out, is not for the light of pocket, said Saat. “Many of the teams dropped out because they couldn’t get the funding together, and that was because they were developing their craft based on a commercial model.” Teams in numerous countries, he said, tried to sign up corporate sponsors, but have been able to show a sufficient return on investment.

“Most of those projects are in the $50-$100 million range, and the prize is $30 million. The rest of the investment would have to be made up in intellectual property value, which is very difficult to show for values like $20 million and more,” Saat said. The best some teams have been able to do is come up with some commercial or advertising angle — like the team that is planning to send bottles of sports drinks up with its lander.

SpaceIL doesn’t have that problem, because it’s not trying to make money — and it’s not promising anyone that it will. “Everyone we’ve shown this to has been very supportive; not just backing us verbally, but with money as well,” said Bash. A long list of corporations — including Bezeq, Israel Aircraft Industries (where the actual spacecraft is being built and tested), Broadcom and Micron — along with government agencies like the Israel Space Administration, and universities and philanthropic groups from Israel and the US, have all donated to the cause. In addition, SpaceIL has raised millions from ordinary Israelis, who have given $18 or more to be a part of the cause. “Our goal is to raise $36 million in total, and so far we have raised about $21 million,” said Bash.

How is it that SpaceIL’s project is going to cost so much less than those $50-$100 million projects? It’s all in the design, said Bash. The craft “is only 140 kilos, about the size of a dishwasher,” Bash said, “and of that, most of the payload is fuel.”

The majority of the fuel will be required to enable the craft to make a soft landing on the moon, and position it so that it can “hop” the 500 meters Google requires. Most of the rest of the weight consists of cameras, and a small electronics box to enable “mission control” (located at IAI headquarters in Yehud) to manage the lander.

“We’re keeping the whole thing as light as possible in order to keep costs down,” said Bash. Part of those costs will be hitching the SpaceIL craft a ride on a rocket (most likely an American one) which will get the lander up into orbit, from where it can move to the moon’s field of gravity and be guided to the lunar surface. The lighter the payload, the lower the cost of the launch, explained Bash.

Over 250 volunteer engineers are working part-time on SpaceIL, making Israel’s staff the largest working on any country’s project. With all that brainpower, there’s no reason that SpaceIL’s project shouldn’t work — unless it doesn’t, Bash said wryly. “The truth is, the only way we are going to know if it is going to succeed is if it succeeds,” he said. “The last 15 minutes [of the journey through space] — when we try to land the craft on the moon — will be the most nail biting. And there’s no guarantee we will be ready before the other teams. According to Google’s rules, it’s a winner-take-all contest, with the first team to get its craft on the moon taking the whole prize.”

Bash firmly believes Israel is going to win — but he also insists that even if SpaceIL doesn’t get to the moon first, Israel is already a winner in this contest. “We are leveraging Israeli expertise in micro-satellite technologies, building the smallest, smartest spacecraft to ever land on the moon, and our system will be the first to rely on optic navigation, which uses the craft’s cameras to navigate in space. This way we don’t have to carry a bulky satellite to communicate and navigate.” Just those two accomplishments alone will be worth a great deal to companies developing other projects.

Saat stressed that if it wins, SpaceIL will use the prize money for future projects; companies developing intellectual property on behalf of the project will own their IP). SpaceIL volunteers work with kids at an Israeli school, discussing the moonshot with them (Photo credit: Alon Hadar)

SpaceIL volunteers work with kids at an Israeli school, discussing the moonshot with them (Photo credit: Alon Hadar)

There have been, and will be, many more SpaceIL design innovations that will further benefit the economy, Bash said — to the extent that the new technology could open up space exploration to the masses. “We are showing the way in Israel and around the world for minimum-expense space exploration,” added Bash. “Imagine a corporation or university being able to put up its own exploration vehicle, sent to the moon or an outer planet. That will be feasible based on the technology we are developing.”

But the moonshot’s greatest accomplishment — and the real reason Bash, Saat, and all the other volunteers are giving their precious time for this — is to inspire a generation of Israelis. “In the early 1960s, when President Kennedy announced the goal of putting a man on the moon by the end of the decade, it inspired many young Americans to get into science and engineering, and arguably that explosion of technology education is the reason we have things like Internet and smartphones today,” said Bash, adding that much of miniaturization and communication technology we use today was first developed for the US space program.

“In the US, that was called the Apollo Effect,” said Bash. “We want to duplicate that here, with a SpaceIL effect. We send volunteers to schools all over the country, and we already see how excited kids are about this. We want the next generation in Israel and around the world to think differently about science, engineering, technology and math. When kids see the pictures of an Israeli lander on the moon, flying the Israeli flag and equipped with Israeli technology, we belief this will have a profound effect, influencing many kids to want to be a part of it. For us, that would be the greatest success of all.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: apollo; danielsaat; google; israel; jewsinspace; lunarx; moon; nasa; spaceexploration
The irony is palpable. Here in the US, any attempt to return to the moom has been shelved due to Islamic sensitivities, And a recent Fatwa by 7th Century Islamic scholars having forbidden Muslims from living on Mars, as if. while at the same time Israel in pursuing the advanced technology to conquer the moon or at least benefit from the technological benefits such a project will bring. Let the Iranians put monkeys or pigs in space.

YouTube:Mel Brooks:Jews in Space

1 posted on 02/25/2014 4:13:33 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

did Jade Rabbit fail to perform?


2 posted on 02/25/2014 4:17:27 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: lbryce

just had an idea for a scifi story, jews escape oppression by leaving Earth!


3 posted on 02/25/2014 4:18:21 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: lbryce

One of my favourite scenes from History of the World Part I.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 4:20:12 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: GeronL

Might require a change of genres from scifi to non-fiction.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 4:23:32 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Jewbacca

Ping


6 posted on 02/25/2014 4:28:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: lbryce

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7 posted on 02/25/2014 4:40:00 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
just had an idea for a scifi story, jews escape oppression by leaving Earth!

Hey, that's my idea. Have had it for the last 50 years. Jews build a fleet of spacecraft, build a settlement on Mars, and call it New Israel, to escape oppression by others on Earth. Of course, Palestinians will claim the Jews stole the Mars land from them.

8 posted on 02/25/2014 4:54:37 PM PST by roadcat
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9 posted on 02/25/2014 4:55:28 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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10 posted on 02/25/2014 5:08:36 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: lbryce
So much for NASA’s muslim outreach. Guess they had better stick to trying to sell global warming.
11 posted on 02/25/2014 5:50:35 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: roadcat

They almost went to Alaska.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 7:27:32 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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13 posted on 02/26/2014 5:24:54 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: GeronL

I read a novel based on that premise in (I think) the 80s. Can’t remember the title, though.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 10:41:23 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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If they were impish they would have named it EXODUS


15 posted on 02/26/2014 10:47:06 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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16 posted on 02/26/2014 10:52:18 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

I never get tired of that scene.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 10:54:03 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: roadcat

Well, there would have to be a reversal of that Fatwa prohibiting Mohammedans from going to Mars.


18 posted on 02/26/2014 10:55:26 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Moonman62

ISS Oy-1


19 posted on 02/26/2014 10:55:34 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Army Air Corps

I heard about that Fatwa but don’t get it. Why just Mars? Can’t they have a Fatwa prohibiting them from going to decadent western nations? A billion muslims can’t compete with a tiny nation with one-thousandth the population because the muslim culture fosters hate and not love for life. Israel reaches to the heavens while muslims snarl in the dirt.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 11:11:36 AM PST by roadcat
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To: GeronL
Very close! Diasporah, by W. R. Yates.
21 posted on 02/26/2014 11:27:16 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

ah.

I guess “Exodus” might have been too obvious a title. :p


22 posted on 02/26/2014 11:29:00 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Sounds interesting. I might be looking for it sooner or later.


23 posted on 02/26/2014 11:31:45 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

IIRC, it was a decent read.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: lbryce
in the US, any attempt to return to the moom has been shelved due to Islamic sensitivities

Wha? Where did you get that canard?

25 posted on 02/26/2014 3:22:13 PM PST by beebuster2000
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