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Members of mom anti-gun violence group urge posting of ‘No Guns’ signs
hinsdale.suntimes.com ^ | 2/26/2014 | Jane Michaels

Posted on 02/27/2014 7:35:10 AM PST by rktman

Western Springs and La Grange members of an anti-gun violence group are asking area businesses to post signs depicting No Guns Allowed.

A new state law allows residents to carry concealed weapons, pending approval of permit applications through the Illinois State Police. The first such permits are expected to be issued beginning March 1.

“I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,” said Katherine Mudd, a Western Springs member of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. She has children, ages 7 and 9, and has been handing out postcards to area businesses.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2a; antigun; banglist; group; guncontrol; illinois; lagrange; members; mom; momsdemandaction; noguns; nogunsallowed; posting; signs; urge; violence; westernsprings
What, no children of 23 and 25? Obviously these asshats need to go back and re-read the messaging guide. "Gun safety advocacy" group. Geez. Give em a guide and they still can't get it right. For me, I'd feel safer knowing that there might be someone on site armed. Just in case.
1 posted on 02/27/2014 7:35:10 AM PST by rktman
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2 posted on 02/27/2014 7:37:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rktman

They should make themselves little “No Guns” pins.

...and then they should wear those pins late at night while walking through neighborhoods that precious, rich, White women like them never go through.

You know... Experience a little of life as seen through someone else’s eyes. Like, let’s say, the eyes of a poor woman of color who can’t afford a $900 handgun for protection, let alone qualify for a carry permit.


3 posted on 02/27/2014 7:40:06 AM PST by Redcloak (Was that the primary buffer panel?)
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To: rktman
“I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,”

What a useless idiot. If all you care about with Liberty is to "feel safe" than there truly is no place for you. Does she honestly believe a sign will stop a criminal? How much more brain dead can she be?

4 posted on 02/27/2014 7:40:45 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Travis McGee

Mass Killer of Humans

If you have never forwarded a video link in your life, this is the one that will make people wake up about the importance of the Second Amendment.

This is information elected officials do not want you to see .... because it is the truth .

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0sujnvIV4g4


5 posted on 02/27/2014 7:41:24 AM PST by drypowder
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To: rktman

Jeez! You can stop crimes just by posting a sign! Why hasn’t anyone thought of this before?!


6 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:18 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: rktman

Post all the signs you like.

Pffft...


7 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:26 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: rktman
Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America

A Soros astroturf operation.

8 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:30 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Travis McGee; drypowder

Bump!


9 posted on 02/27/2014 7:43:22 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rjsimmon

Liberals actually believe that no one should have a gun because some maniac might go off. Conservative know that is the reason to be armed.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 7:44:28 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: rjsimmon
“I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,”

So do I. And Cabela's is probably the safest store in our area. I only wish they sold groceries.

11 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:40 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rktman

“No guns” or “Gun-free zone” signs are partly what led to the mass murders at the Colorado theater and the Sandy Hook school. Perps intent on mass murder will always strike where defenseless people are.

Stupid-assed woman with her comment about “wanting to be in stores that are safe” typifies the idiocy that permeates the anti-gun mindset.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: rktman
Here ya go, ma'am.


13 posted on 02/27/2014 7:48:22 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: drypowder

Powerful...should I know some of those folks? I posted to my facebook


14 posted on 02/27/2014 7:48:34 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

any business that posts that nonsense, should have those sign plastered all over their entrances and parking lots.

No Guns signs should mean financial suicide.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 7:51:56 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Travis McGee

Channeling my “Inner Ted Nugent”, that walking, talking blonde joke is too ignorant and far too much of a Libtard to understand the obvious - Shootings never occur at gun ranges! Listen up, Blondie - the Founders considered it to be the right and duty of the citizen to be at all times armed.

As you are too cowardly to be armed, and therefore must depend on others to protect you, why do you want to disarm others and/or ban their guns?

Are you a closeted Commie? Or are you just acting out your ‘inner blonde”?


16 posted on 02/27/2014 7:52:06 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: rktman

So police won’t have anywhere to eat.


17 posted on 02/27/2014 7:52:39 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can stop crimes just by posting a sign!

Every liberal knows that. It's obvious that someone who is intent on using violence will be completely stopped by a sign prohibiting firearms.

18 posted on 02/27/2014 7:53:18 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rktman

We should do the same with drugs.
We should make laws making drugs illegal so people would stop doing drugs.
Oh, wait.


19 posted on 02/27/2014 7:53:19 AM PST by envisio (It's on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: rktman

20 posted on 02/27/2014 7:55:52 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: AppyPappy

Exceptions are always made for police. If you don’t, they’ll shoot your dog, mace you and knock out every one of your teeth. Then they’ll tell you how lucky you are they didn’t just kill you.

That way they can go home safe at the end of their watches. That’s the most important thing.


21 posted on 02/27/2014 8:00:13 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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bfl


22 posted on 02/27/2014 8:00:18 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: rktman

I have seen a few of these sign. Not very many. But if that sign is in front of an establishment I turn and go somewhere else.


23 posted on 02/27/2014 8:03:41 AM PST by cork (Gun control = hitting what you aim at)
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To: rktman
The opposite sits in front of my home and the FedEx & Pizza Delivery guys love it::


24 posted on 02/27/2014 8:05:23 AM PST by maddog55
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To: rktman

When our state approved cc, a number of businesses put up no gun signs. I don’t know the details but the only signs up now are on government buildings.

Apparently businesses have learned that legal carry does not adversely affect business. As many of these are national concerns, I hope they apply the lessons to stores in that state.


25 posted on 02/27/2014 8:06:48 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: rktman; FReepers




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26 posted on 02/27/2014 8:14:14 AM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: Obadiah

“Members of mom anti-gun violence group urge posting of ‘No Guns’ signs”

She absolutely has the right to post this sign...on HER FRONT LAWN. That will direct the bad guys where to go....


27 posted on 02/27/2014 8:26:53 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: sauropod

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28 posted on 02/27/2014 8:34:26 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: rktman

Betcha I can put 18 rounds in a ten ring drawn on one of them signs from 50 feet in 15 seconds.


29 posted on 02/27/2014 8:43:08 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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Posting a sign conflicting with current law has what legal implications or authority?


30 posted on 02/27/2014 8:46:44 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: rktman
"“I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,” said Katherine Mudd,..."

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I wonder how she equates being defenseless as being safe?


31 posted on 02/27/2014 8:50:27 AM PST by GregoTX (Keep Calm and Cruz On)
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“I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,” said Katherine Mudd, a Western Springs member of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America

You can get the biggest goof off of all time, put a night watchman uniform on him, arm him and these idiots would feel perfectly safe with him around.

32 posted on 02/27/2014 9:03:53 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Guys approaching a store pulling their ski masks down over their faces with guns in their hands.

Then they see the “No Guns” sign and stop in their tracks and start walking away.

“Dammit, not another one. Ok guys we need to find a different store to rob. How about that store? Does it have a sign in the window?”


33 posted on 02/27/2014 9:10:04 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: rktman

I invite her to Idaho, where both open and concealed carry are legal. And I believe the same is now true of my native land, Wisconsin, since liberal Gov. Doyle has been replaced by Scott Walker.


34 posted on 02/27/2014 9:40:45 AM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: cork

And your effort is thus wasted. When you see such a sign on any business establishment, you need to spend a few minutes to make a worthwhile effort that WILL change the situation.

Go inside, ask for the manager. Talk only to the top manager that is on duty. Politely explain how much money you normally spend or would have spent in their establishment but since they have decided that YOUR and their other customer’s safety is of no importance because they are disarming law abiding citizens who could/would help and stop a crazed shooter, you will no longer patronize their store.

Be polite and don’t rant, just point out the facts: They’re not only losing YOUR money but many others who will not say anything but will not patronize them.

Then tell them to talk to their legal counsel and insurance carrier to find out how much it will cost them if some batshit crazy assh0le disregards the sign and shoots any of their defenseless customers, who *could* have carried or used their weapons to stop the shooter or to defend themselves. Point out, nicely, that by EXPLICITLY removing any defense from their customers puts the liability for that defense on their business.

Ask them to evaluate the costs of 1) lost business from legitimate, law abiding citizen customers who carry and 2) the lawsuits after such a shooting where the customers were required to be defenseless because of their little sign.

And you can point out that making their establishment PC feelgood “gun free” only means that they have actually made it not only a target rich environment for any crazy ass shooter who won’t obey either the laws or their little sign, but also a magnet for such crazies. Virtually all of the major mass murder shootings have been in “gun free” zones. So they are *attracting* such liability by posting their little PC gun free zone sign.

Don’t argue with them. Just explain the above, and then leave. Does no good to argue or get steamed. But once the facts have been pointed out to them, it may take a while for them to sink in, but at least a rational person who has been propagandized by the anti-gun, PC crowd will have something to make a better decision on.

If the store is a huge chain, sit down and write the above in a letter and send it directly to the chain headquarters. No email or phone calls- they cost nothing and are of no value. A hard copy, written letter (especially sent certified/return receipt) shows your effort and conviction put into it.

Silently walking away does nothing to let the business know their mistake in kowtowing to the minority but very vocal anti-gun PC crowd and what the actual *costs* to the business are of putting up those little signs. And *costs* to the business are what talks and decisions are based on. They erroneously think, unless it’s pointed out to them, that there’s no cost to just post that little sign. When they see the costs - loss of YOUR $$$ - there is business based incentive to remove the PC signs.

It takes an effort, but look at the effort that the anti-gunners are putting into their cause. If we don’t put out a similar effort, they win by default. Walking away when you see the sign doesn’t provide the business with the feedback that the Mad Moms have given them.

And it might be quite entertaining if you keep the right mindset and try to smile and enjoy the experience/encounter. And enlightening for the business management who may have never heard the other side of the argument. Think of it as taking the manager/owner out to the range.

If you want to keep it short and sweet and not spend a lot of YOUR time, just write up a message such as above, print it out and walk in and hand it to the manager, then leave. (They can’t argue with you if you leave, but they have something tangible showing your effort, just as the Mad Moms have done. Which do you think will be more effective- a play on their emotions or definite evidence of loss of $$?)

Think about it.


35 posted on 02/27/2014 9:51:43 AM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: rjsimmon
The criminal will see the sign and leave his gun in the car when he robs the store. I think Mrs. Mudd has shit for brains. She doesn't feel safe when she sees a person with a concealed gun in the store. She mustn't know the meaning of concealed, or she has xray vision. It's amazing to see how stupid some people can be.
36 posted on 02/27/2014 10:35:33 AM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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