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Posted on 03/01/2014 6:10:55 AM PST by kronos77
Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked the country’s senators to approve sending Russian troops to Ukraine to settle the situation there. Russian MPs have said that the turmoil in Crimea could allow for such a move.
Earlier on Saturday, the speaker of the Russian State Duma Council Valentina Matvienko said that the current circumstances in Ukraine make such a move possible.
The final decision to send troops to Crimea lies with President Vladimir Putin as Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, speaker of the Russian State Duma Council Valentina Matvienko said. The current circumstances make such a move possible, she said.
“It’s possible in this situation, complying with a request by the Crimean government, even to bring a limited contingent of our troops to ensure the safety of the Black Sea Fleet and the Russian citizens living on Crimean territory. The decision is for the president, the chief military commander, to make, of course. But today, taking the situation into account, even that variant can’t be excluded. We need to protect the people,” Matvienko said.
The Russian government has so far been careful in its assessment of the new self-proclaimed Ukrainian government in Kiev. Matvienko said the reason for that was Russia counting on its Western partners, who vowed to guarantee the February 21 agreements between Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich and the opposition.
“Russia did not interfere in the situation in Ukraine for a very long time and showed restraint, assuming that the Western states, which became backers of the agreements, would see that strict compliance with the deal is observed,” she said.
However, after “violent upheaval” took place in Ukraine, the Western states did not come up with “any reasonable measures or responses,” Matvienko said.
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In short, we are looking at minimum a repeat of what happened to Czechoslovakia in 1968.
There is no love between the Ukrainians and the Russians. Putin wants a civil war. The Ukies will not get any support from the pussies in Brussels or the White House. Russia will dominate Ukraine, and there will be another world war. The Ukies know very well what Russians are capable of. They are fiercely nationalist and will fight, but I do not think they have the resources to beat Putin.
This could get very ugly very soon.
The brotherhood running the west wing have no clue what they are up against. They should keep the nukes, beef up the military and pray real hard. Russians don’t like minorities or moslems, at all.
Their senators or ours? Ours should butt out unless it becomes
clear that WE could be in danger.
And Putin should butt out in that country’s internal affairs
too, but he probably won’t.
I think you have the country right, just the wrong year. This is much more like Nazi Germany's demand for the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia in 1938. Like Adolph Hitler, Putin really believes he can get what he wants, and like Czechoslovakia of 1938 having a sizable minority of Germans the Ukraine has a sizable minority of Russians.
An 1938, the is really nothing the West can do to stop Putin anymore than they could back then stop Hitler. Eventually, Chamberlain “gave” the Sudetenland to Hitler. Obama will give the Crimea to Putin. He will abandon the Ukrainians, just like Chamberlain abandoned the Czechs.
Without consulting the Czechs, the four powers agreed that the Sudetenland should be given to Germany immediately. The governments of Britain and France made it clear to Czechoslovakia that if the Czechs rejected this solution, they would have to fight Germany by themselves.
Rewritten for 2014:
Without consulting the Czechs, the four powersObama and the EU agreed that the SudetenlandCrimea should be given to Germany Russia immediately. The governments of Britainthe USA and Francethe EU made it clear to Czechoslovakiathe Ukraine that if the CzechsUkrainians rejected this solution, they would have to fight GermanyRussia by themselves.
Of course, after that happened, Czechoslovakia wasn't enough for Hitler. He wanted Poland next. Britain and France lamely gave militarily-backed assurances to Poland that they could not fulfill, Hitler invaded anyways, and WWII came to Europe.
So after we give the Crimea to Russia and screw over the Ukrainians, what country will be our Poland?
Russia is acting according to that document.
They are fighting mob that overthrew legally elected president of Ukraine...
Putin has his rubber stamp. I guess that means that it is time to cut our military even further. Forward under Obama.
I think you have the country right, just the wrong year. This is much more like Nazi Germany's demand for the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia in 1938. Like Adolph Hitler, Putin really believes he can get what he wants, and like Czechoslovakia of 1938 having a sizable minority of Germans the Ukraine has a sizable minority of Russians.
An 1938, the is really nothing the West can do to stop Putin anymore than they could back then stop Hitler. Eventually, Chamberlain “gave” the Sudetenland to Hitler. Obama will give the Crimea to Putin. He will abandon the Ukrainians, just like Chamberlain abandoned the Czechs.
Without consulting the Czechs, the four powers agreed that the Sudetenland should be given to Germany immediately. The governments of Britain and France made it clear to Czechoslovakia that if the Czechs rejected this solution, they would have to fight Germany by themselves.
Rewritten for 2014:
Without consulting the CzechsUkrainians, the four powers Obama and the EU agreed that the Sudetenland Crimea should be given to Germany Russia immediately. The governments of Britain the USA and France the EU made it clear to Czechoslovakiathe Ukraine that if the CzechsUkrainians rejected this solution, they would have to fight GermanyRussia by themselves.
Of course, after that happened, Czechoslovakia wasn't enough for Hitler. He wanted Poland next. Britain and France lamely gave militarily-backed assurances to Poland that they could not fulfill, Hitler invaded anyways, and WWII came to Europe.
So after we give the Crimea to Russia and screw over the Ukrainians, what country will be our Poland?
The Afghans turfed the Russians with the help of a few billion dollars in food, equipment and training. Given that Ukraine shares borders with 5 NATO allies, we could ship any amount of equipment the Ukrainians need to ward off the Russians, without the Pakistani corruption that skimmed off the majority of aid to the Afghan mujahideen. The question, of course, is whether Obama and the EU will authorize the aid. My take is that if the EU doesn't feel Russia's invasion is problematic enough for the EU's security to send aid to the Ukrainians, maybe we shouldn't bother. The Europeans are always looking to use our resources to achieve their foreign policy objectives. They did it over both Libya and Syria. Maybe they should spend their own money, for a change.
Hungary - 1956.
Putin is using the same pretext for invasion that Hitler repeatedly used.
Lawyers are probably all over that with a fine-toothed comb.
Legal or not, they’re not going to honor it. Can you see Obama doing that?
I guess sponsoring the violent overthrow of the freely elected government in Ukraine and installing neo-Nazis who give Nazi salutes wasn’t such a good idea.
ALL of Russia’s Black Sea fleet is in the Ukraine. There is no way they are not going to protect their interests. They just signed a new lease until 2042 for the ports they use.
Perhaps the Baltics?
Rent to own?
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