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Idaho Fish and Game kills 23 wolves in Lolo Pass area
Missoulian ^ | 3/1/14 | AP article

Posted on 03/01/2014 9:59:06 PM PST by Valpal1

BOISE, Idaho — Idaho wildlife officials have killed 23 wolves in northern Idaho in an effort to boost the number of elk in the region.

The Idaho Fish and Game announced Friday afternoon that the animals were killed by USDA Wildlife Service agents using a helicopter in the Lolo elk zone near the Montana border. It's the sixth time the agency has taken action to kill wolves in the Lolo zone in the past four years, bringing the total number of wolves killed there to 48. The efforts are part of the state's predator management plan, which calls for killing wolves when the Fish and Game Department determines they are causing conflicts with people or domestic animals or that they are a significant factor in declining numbers of elk or deer.

(Excerpt) Read more at missoulian.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: environmental; wolves
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To: Myrddin

That looks like an interesting bang stick. I’ll have to check it out.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 12:06:21 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6
Very versatile. I have both Encore and Contender G2 frames. Always buy the pistol config. You can build pistol or rifle configs from the pistol frame. If the frame came with the serial number registered as a rifle from the factory, it is rifle only from the ATF perspective. The Form 4473 will reflect the pistol serial number registered with the ATF and require being 21 or older to make the purchase. Details, but important details if you want the best bang for the buck.
22 posted on 03/02/2014 10:23:35 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Very important details. Thanks.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 10:39:26 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eska

Well, at least no 35 to 40 old elk. Thanks for killin’ all the good ones!


24 posted on 03/02/2014 10:59:08 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Valpal1

http://www.chonday.com/Videos/wolfrivers2


25 posted on 03/06/2014 10:41:30 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU

Or it was the wildfires of 1988 that burned over 1/3 of the park that is responsible for the alleged vegetation changes as the forest regenerates itself instead of the ‘magic’ wolf theory.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 10:57:31 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

It seems more likely the wolf story is the accurate one.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 11:09:17 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU

No it doesn’t. Post fire habitat generation has been extensively observed and documented for the last hundred years. What’s funny is how this is all now ascribed to the magic wolves in Yellowstone, but not in burned forests where there are no wolves, yet the same regeneration occurs.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 11:15:26 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: ZULU

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20957967

Our study demonstrates that the historical failure of aspen to regenerate varied widely among stands (last recruitment year ranged from 1892 to 1956), and our data do not indicate an abrupt cessation of recruitment.

This pattern of recruitment failure appears more consistent with a gradual increase in elk numbers rather than a rapid behavioral shift in elk foraging following wolf extirpation. In addition, our estimates of relative survivorship of young browsable aspen indicate that aspen are not currently recovering in Yellowstone, even in the presence of a large wolf population.

Finally, in an experimental test of the BMTC hypothesis we found that the impacts of elk browsing on aspen demography are not diminished in sites where elk are at higher risk of predation by wolves.


29 posted on 03/06/2014 11:21:45 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

Interesting. It would seem that two different types of situations occur. In one fire destroys ground cover indiscriminately along with small trees (certain types excepted, such as pitch pine, which REQUIRES fire for the cones to open).

In the other, what the article is saying is that areas overgrazed by deer are relieved of that pressure by the presence of wolf packs which drive them from open areas, allowing reforestation in those areas.

I never heard of this scenario with the “magic” wolves before, but what they are saying here appears to make some kind of sense.

I don’t know if this somethnig that reliable ecologists have worked out, or some group opposed to wolf hunting. I just don’t know.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 12:16:43 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Valpal1

What about other vegetation, and deer over-browing?\
Who are the people who presented this video? What are their qualifications?


31 posted on 03/06/2014 12:18:05 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU
In the other, what the article is saying is that areas overgrazed by deer are relieved of that pressure by the presence of wolf packs which drive them from open areas, allowing reforestation in those areas.

The study I linked to said the opposite. You've got George Moonbat and the BBC claiming it's the magic of wolves.

When you're comparing the destructive force of a wildfire to the minor impact of wolves occasionally redirecting ungulate grazing for causing change in vegetative growth, the non-insane person would recognize that fire is more direct and powerful agent.

The 1988 wildfires burned down over a third of Yellowstone and in the middle of the natural regeneration they introduce wolves and then claim the natural result of fire induced regeneration is somehow the result of the magical presence of wolves. It's utter bison scat and propaganda.

I use the term magical, because that's how all the pro wolf nuts talk about them, all breathy spiritualism.

32 posted on 03/06/2014 12:48:30 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

WHo is george Moonbat? Is he an eco-nut?


33 posted on 03/06/2014 1:01:24 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU
Why vegans were right all along Famine can only be avoided if the rich give up meat, fish and dairy

He predicted 12 years ago that if we didn't give up meat and dairy and all become vegans there would be famine everywhere.

He is The Guardian's in house global warmist and eco nut. His name is actually Monbiat.

34 posted on 03/06/2014 2:03:20 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Monbiot

Nutjob.


35 posted on 03/06/2014 3:28:50 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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