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NASA Admits to Selling Discount Fuel to Google Execs
. ^ | march 7, 2014 | Stephen Stock and Scott Pham

Posted on 03/07/2014 9:42:41 AM PST by MeshugeMikey

NASA now acknowledges what NBC Bay Area's Investigative Team first uncovered last year--that the government agency has been effectively giving a price break on jet fuel to a private company.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: cronyism; freechit; google; nasa

1 posted on 03/07/2014 9:42:41 AM PST by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey

They get to park their G-5s at the former Moffet dirigible facility there, too. I think the Govt has even given the facility to them on lease or purchase now.

Nope, no tit for tat here....I wouldn’t even spit on Google. Never use them, or anything they advertise that I knowingly am aware of.


2 posted on 03/07/2014 9:45:37 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Google a private company? Anyone who believes that, SURF'S UP IN ARIZONA!

(Go=Gov't) + (ogle=watch) = Google

3 posted on 03/07/2014 9:46:37 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: MeshugeMikey

Crony communist capitalism at its finest.
Lord knows the leftist billionaires need all the help they can get.
Hey hairy reid...this seems to be unamercican to me.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 9:48:47 AM PST by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: Gaffer

the google branch of government...


5 posted on 03/07/2014 9:48:50 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Google owners are huge libs, shouldn’t they be paying full price for everything to help us poor commoners?


6 posted on 03/07/2014 9:48:50 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

NASA ,remind me again why this stupid government agency is needed any of you statist/collectivist morons on here who think you are conservative

NASA does global warming research ,pushing the global warming hoax, muslim outreach, and other absurd crap at infinity

abolish the IRS, EPA, FEC , FCC, NASA , FDA , government public schools , HUD, for starters


7 posted on 03/07/2014 9:51:02 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Now if Grassley would go after ethanol producers with the same enthusiasm, I’d be impressed.

It’s the #1 reason for high food prices and contributes to high gas prices.


8 posted on 03/07/2014 9:51:07 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

the use of ethanol is next to criminal


9 posted on 03/07/2014 9:51:52 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Democrat_media

let us not overlook our “freinds” at the NSA...


10 posted on 03/07/2014 9:52:57 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: 12th_Monkey

cronyism cant be helped...../


11 posted on 03/07/2014 9:53:43 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I never thought of that ... now I'll REALLY have nightmares.

Thanx for the tip.


That's like everybody says "daily kos, like kos is one word simular to 'coast', but it's not ... it is the letter 'K' followed by 'ay-oss' ...chaos.

12 posted on 03/07/2014 9:56:55 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Friends at the NSA indeed.

Afterall the NSA is the only part of the Federal Government that takes the time to really listen to what we have to say.....

LOL.


13 posted on 03/07/2014 10:00:25 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Google a private company? Anyone who believes that, SURF’S UP IN ARIZONA!

(Go=Gov’t) + (ogle=watch) = Google”


I’ve been thinking this for years.

Google is as private as your tax returns to the IRS.


14 posted on 03/07/2014 10:02:05 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: Democrat_media

Yeah, but they gave us TANG or velcro or something and John Glenn!


15 posted on 03/07/2014 10:07:27 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

don’t you need to go prove to your overlords at the IRS that you made a certain income? the IRS needs more $ for NASA to do more global warming propaganda for the global warming hoax

government is the problem,disband all agencies except military and border control


16 posted on 03/07/2014 10:12:22 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Google cannot afford fuel for their luxury jets? Poor company, we should give
them taxpayer money so they don't have to deal with public transportation.
17 posted on 03/07/2014 10:13:25 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Gaffer
Never use them, or anything they advertise that I knowingly am aware of.

That'll teach 'em. Laughable, because you provide them money every single day.
18 posted on 03/07/2014 10:14:32 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Gaffer
Google Takes Over Moffet

Use of Moffet field for general aviation was fought for by CRAMP and AOPA back in the early 90's.

NASA fought back by vilifying General Aviation at every step of the way. The city of Sunnyvale and Mountain View routinely attacked GA pilots and airplanes as "dangerous amateurs" who would "crash into school yards".

Thus was GA forced to Reid-Hillview - where Santa Clara County did every thing they could to prevent renovation of the facility - and to South County airport, where it's actually not too bad. They did let them build some hangars.

And then along come a couple of corrupt little twits like Larry Page and Sergey Brin (he's Russian, so the corruption thing comes naturally). Not only are they flying Big Bad Eeevil Noisy Smoky Scary JETS (not C-172s), they want the taxpayers to subsidize them.

And NASA rolls right over for it.

BTW, the other people who get to use a U.S. "Federal" airfield?

The Russian cargo company Volga-Dneiper.

American? Fly airplanes? Pound sand, loser. You can't land here.

19 posted on 03/07/2014 10:15:53 AM PST by Regulator
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To: TurboZamboni
yeah sure pretty crappy accomplishments for all the hundred of billions$ in todays dollars for that gov tyranny. oh yes didn't NASA also kill about 7 astronauts in a space shuttle , another accomplishment
20 posted on 03/07/2014 10:16:01 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: TexasGunLover

And that is how?


21 posted on 03/07/2014 10:16:05 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Do More EvilTM
22 posted on 03/07/2014 10:16:16 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I think that reflects their mission quite adequately.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 10:18:47 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: MaxMax

I sense that nasa acting as a distributor...of goods which we the taxpayer have funded may not even be legal.


24 posted on 03/07/2014 10:21:07 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The first thing that came to mind when I read it was ‘Teapot Dome Scandal’.


25 posted on 03/07/2014 10:22:15 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: MeshugeMikey

In GooGle Ve Trust


26 posted on 03/07/2014 10:23:11 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Hell, they didn’t even give us velcro. Here’s a tidbit about the origin of velcro. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velcro


27 posted on 03/07/2014 10:31:13 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Yep, not a ‘smidgen’ of corruption among liberal elites...
28 posted on 03/07/2014 10:32:13 AM PST by GOPJ ("Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), always currying favor with the press...."(nailed) - William Bigelow)
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To: NormsRevenge




im sure obie will look into thi matter...as soon as he returns from vacation....


29 posted on 03/07/2014 10:34:57 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: wonkowasright

30 posted on 03/07/2014 10:40:21 AM PST by Aqua Buddhist
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To: MeshugeMikey

Maybe it was stale..............................


31 posted on 03/07/2014 10:53:59 AM PST by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: MeshugeMikey
NASA gets less money than it should for selling fuel to Google execs while the US can't afford a space program?

Hey, Obama, how's that "millionaires and billionaires" thing goin' for you?

32 posted on 03/07/2014 10:57:39 AM PST by grania
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To: Democrat_media
“NASA ,remind me again why this stupid government agency is needed any of you statist/collectivist morons on here who think you are conservative”

NASA politics aside, understanding and exploration of space is extremely important for countless reasons.

Human civilization is only a few thousand years old and can be gone in the blink of an eye if we don't master space.

Also, IMO space is far more weaponized than the public knows. There is likely a quiet arms race going on between the USA, Russia and China. Hence the secret robotic shuttles NASA is sending up and anti-satellite tests by other nations. Space weapons can send down unstoppable attacks anywhere on earth instantly. Would you prefer to cede control of space to the Russians or Chinese?

IMO, NASA is equally if not more important than the military.

33 posted on 03/07/2014 12:09:05 PM PST by varyouga
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To: MeshugeMikey

NSA rather than NASA is what I would expect.

Then again, it’s all Fedzilla.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 12:16:27 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Democrat_media

Doesn’t nasa pay Russia tens of millions of dollars every time they send US astronauts up to the “international” space station? Oh, yes, they are accomplishing many, many productive and useful things there. What a sick laugh!


35 posted on 03/07/2014 12:55:35 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: varyouga
government is UNNACOUNTABLE.

your stupid NASA is doing global warming research, that's right researching a hoax to enslave us. look up hansen , one of the most rabid and prolific global warming alarmists was a NASA “scientist”: 15-Year-Old Byrnes Outsmarts NASA’s Global Warming Alarmist James Hansen http://newsbusters.org/node/13282

your stupid NASA is not mastering any space , it's doing fake research to enslave us

you trust government , the ultimate evil . you are not a conservative but a collectivist

The fundamental political conflict in America today is, as it has been for a century, individualism vs. collectivism. Does the individual’s life belong to him—or does it belong to the group, the community, society, or the state? if it belongs to the state then the individual has no right to own guns nor even property or a house.

there are 2 groups of people conservative and liberals. democrats and republicans. but really it’s a battle between individualism vs collectivism. I’m telling you all every single democrat is a collectivist and they are driving us to a state where an individual will not even be allowed to own a house nor property much less guns. but it’s the same principle : private ownership.

democrats/liberals/progressives or whatever they call themselves are just collectivists which = also marxists/socialists/communists

Individualism is the idea that the individual’s life belongs to him and that he has an inalienable right to live it as he sees fit, to act on his own judgment, to keep and use the product of his effort, and to pursue the values of his choosing. It’s the idea that the individual is sovereign, an end in himself, and the fundamental unit of moral concern. This is the ideal that the American Founders set forth and sought to establish when they drafted the Declaration and the Constitution and created a country in which the individual’s rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness were to be recognized and protected.

Collectivism is the idea that the individual’s life belongs not to him but to the group or society of which he is merely a part, that he has no rights, and that he must sacrifice his values and goals for the group’s “greater good.” According to collectivism, the group or society is the basic unit of moral concern, and the individual is of value only insofar as he serves the group. As one advocate of this idea puts it: “Man has no rights except those which society permits him to enjoy. From the day of his birth until the day of his death society allows him to enjoy certain so-called rights and deprives him of others; not . . . because society desires especially to favor or oppress the individual, but because its own preservation, welfare, and happiness are the prime considerations.”1

Individualism or collectivism—which of these ideas is correct? Which has the facts on its side?

Individualism does, and we can see this at every level of philosophic inquiry: from metaphysics, the branch of philosophy concerned with the fundamental nature of reality; to epistemology, the branch concerned with the nature and means of knowledge; to ethics, the branch concerned with the nature of value and proper human action; to politics, the branch concerned with a proper social system.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2012-spring/individualism-collectivism.asp

36 posted on 03/07/2014 1:47:17 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Red Badger

it would be a shame if it got too far past its best if used by date and had to be discarded


37 posted on 03/07/2014 2:38:58 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Democrat_media
Again, what NASA does publicly is only a small part of the story. IMO, they have a huge classified role in space weaponry. Many missions are no doubt a cover for weapons research and maintenance.

I'm against nearly all aspects of big government but military is necessary to defend freedom against the power of vast collectivist armies and superweapons.

Also, despite the politics and corruption, we managed to follow and even touch comets in several missions. We are getting better at landing and operating robotics on distant bodies. These skills are crucial to defend humanity from space objects.

Guns should be in the hands of the people but what can they do against orbital weapons and nukes? What can individuals do against planet-killing space rocks?

You need massive collectivist programs to get the resources to defend against such complex threats.

38 posted on 03/07/2014 3:13:08 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Black Agnes
It took six years to get Fall into prison. The scandals going on now are in our faces
while the Politicians balk at us from behind closed doors. So much of that scandal is going
on today with Congress' protection. The Dems have the goods on everybody in the know
because they are "doing it too".

It will take an act of God to bring DC back into Constitutional shape. It can happen.

39 posted on 03/07/2014 7:37:26 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: varyouga

NASA is not the military .

you trust government . you are a collectivist

private contractors developing weapons systems for the military is different from a gov agency like NASA that does muslim outreach and global warming propaganda


40 posted on 03/08/2014 12:34:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: varyouga
there is a military . NASA is not it but it is another unaccountable gov agency.

go kneel down the IRS and hope they don't abuse you. have fun working half of the year(if you add up all these taxes) paying the salary of these government idiot workers who don't do anything and are unaccountable to anyone like Lois Lerner of the IRS who oppressed Conservatives, and Hansen of NASA another liberal idiot and global warming propagandist

41 posted on 03/09/2014 11:36:36 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Google a private company?

It was, once - until the Feds figured out what it was capable of and decided to quietly "nationalize" its technologies.

42 posted on 03/09/2014 11:39:03 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: varyouga
your stupid NASA has just been around for 60 years or so.Somehow the USA(or the people here) survived without your stupid NASA for 200 years on this Continent and others thousands of years before that. there is a military . NASA is not the military( get it?). but it is another unaccountable collectivist government agency spending billions yearly for our "common good" as in the EPA , FDA, FEC, NASA, HUD,FCC etc/ : all this huge government and all these government agencies were NOT here 50 years ago and before that we actually ( the USA ) grew without building up unsustainable debt we are building up now.

go kneel down the IRS and hope they don't abuse you. have fun working half of the year(if you add up all these taxes) paying the salary of these government idiot workers who don't do anything and are unaccountable to anyone like Lois Lerner of the IRS who oppressed Conservatives, and Hansen of NASA another liberal idiot and global warming propagandist

you believe that we need NASA to survive . we don't . you trust government. you are a collectivist. gov doesn't work . look at North korea and south korea . if gov could do anything than why isn't n korea, cuba and the other socialist countries surpassing every thing since you think collectivist systems are superior. idiotic.gov is unaccountable what about that don't you understand?

43 posted on 03/09/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: varyouga
“You need massive collectivist programs to get the resources to defend against such complex threats.”

laughable.

that's always the collectivist scare tactic

1. step 1 create a fake crisis (example global warming)
2. repeatedly menace the population with the fake hogoblin(global warming will destroy the Earth)
3. so then the people will gladly accept their government masters to take over more of the economy or resources, power etc. to “save” us from global warming , "no healthcare" , and other fake crisis

spare me.

give us power , your money , freedom and etc. and we'll save you

that is the whole collectivist bait and switch and you are pitching it on a conservative site

even if the threat was real ( there aren't any) stupid unaccountable government woulnd’t work hard enough to actually take care of said threat if they even could. so it's 3 steps of faith you liberal/collectivists have to take:

1. you believe the fake threat is real
2. you actually believe that government agency can change anything even the weather, climate, comets, or solar system (comets etc) etc. ( lol gov can't even do education , housing nor hearlthcare look at gov schools, HUD, housing project, USSR, cuba, n korea, public va , pulic healthcare)
3.you actually believe 1 and 2 are true and then that 3 that the government morons will actually work their hardest to do what they said (no it's bait and switch usually anyway)

all 3 are FALSE .

44 posted on 03/09/2014 12:21:12 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media
I told you that I agree that every government function is corrupt and needs to be minimized.

But IMO, we need some kind of presence in space. Whether it is a government agency or contractor paid for by government doesn't matter. It is still collectivist all the same.

I never mentioned global warming or Muslim outreach. Only the following functions. IMO, they can only be handled collectively:

-Space weapon functions. Nuclear, kenetic and laser weapons are no doubt up there and real threats. The NASA X37A was pretty much tailor made for this. The technology is now used by the Air Force

-Detection and intervention of space objects. NASA Deep Impact and Star Dust missions have demonstrated that it is possible. Tracking of objects is improving with better NASA telescopes. The Earth is hit by city-killer rocks every few decades and it's only a matter of time before a major population center is wiped out.

-Terraforming and colonization of other bodies. NASA moon and Mars missions are the beginning stages of this.

45 posted on 03/09/2014 3:41:39 PM PDT by varyouga
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