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Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast: source
Reuters ^ | March 11, 2014 | BY NILUKSI KOSWANAGE AND EVELINE DANUBRATA

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:25:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday. --SNIP--

Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.

"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the senior military officer, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; malacca; malaysia; mh370; planecrash; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/11/2014 6:25:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In a line with Sri Lanka and Somalia.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:29:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And yet, the Malaysian authorities let/directed 10+ countries with hundreds of ships and aircraft to search a completely different area of the sea on the opposite side of the country.

So... what else don’t we know?


3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:04 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
FoxNews

Interpol released photos of the 2 Iranians.

Had valid passports when they entered Malaysia. Traded, apparently, passports for 2 European passports.

[Obligatory?] No sign of terrorism or terrorist ties.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:13 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why are we just finding this out now? The Malaysians know more than they are telling. I wonder what really happened? It sounds like the course and altitude change are deliberate, meaning part of a plan. If we were still in search and rescue mode, why wasn’t this info given out initially? Time to come with with a ransom? A cover story?


5 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:48 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

——Why are we just finding this out now? ——

Your presumption of a right to know has no basis. You have no right to know


6 posted on 03/11/2014 6:34:54 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: nuconvert; SkyDancer

Ping.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 6:36:06 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: cardinal4

This might explain China’s comments yesterday telling Malaysia to do a better job searching.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Do we know the pilots names?


9 posted on 03/11/2014 6:36:39 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lax security at the boarding gate.
Two Muslims travelling on stolen passports.
A rule breaking copilot known for lax cockpit security.

What could possily go wrong?


10 posted on 03/11/2014 6:36:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dumb question:

Why can a pilot turn off the transponder on a large passenger jet?

In what circumstance would it be necessary to do that?

Why not make them stay on all the time, with no way to turn them off?


11 posted on 03/11/2014 6:37:27 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: BenLurkin

Also Western Indonesia, the Maldives, north to Burma and Bangladesh, and obviously India. Not sure the plane would’ve had enough fuel to get to Somalia.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: lacrew

A transponder has several frequencies. Pilots are asked to squawk a specific channel to distinguish them one from another


13 posted on 03/11/2014 6:39:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Have they tried calling this guy to help?
14 posted on 03/11/2014 6:42:09 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: fiftymegaton

Of course, a lot depends on passenger load, but a 777-200 has a maximum range of 5,240 nautical miles.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 6:43:06 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 11th_VA
Do we know the pilots names?

"First officer Fariq Abdul Hamid (left) and Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah were flying the missing aircraft."


16 posted on 03/11/2014 6:43:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: fiftymegaton

And yet, the Malaysian authorities let/directed 10+ countries with hundreds of ships and aircraft to search a completely different area of the sea on the opposite side of the country.

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Saw an ‘expert’ on this sort of thing on TV last night. He said the authorities made a mistake when they started searching from the oil slick that was spotted - the one that turned out NOT to be from a plane. He said they should always start at the ‘beginning’, where the plane was last seen on radar/contacted, etc. and search from there. A lot of time was wasted, searching from that oil slick - tried to ‘short cut’ the process which unlucky for everybody, didn’t pan out. Send somebody to investigate the oil slick by all means, but keep with the ‘regular’ plan as well. Whoever is running their SAR needs to be replaced.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 6:43:56 AM PDT by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

um.... so why did they let the search continue in the wrong place?


18 posted on 03/11/2014 6:44:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: fiftymegaton

New form of Somalia style piracy? Ransom for the plane and souls on board.


19 posted on 03/11/2014 6:44:40 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Mr. K

It’s called “hide the pea” commonly played on the streets… :-)


20 posted on 03/11/2014 6:49:56 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: fiftymegaton
Here is a handy range chart that you may find interesting.
21 posted on 03/11/2014 6:53:47 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 11th_VA

ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH !!!


22 posted on 03/11/2014 6:55:01 AM PDT by angcat
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To: TomGuy

Having an Iranian passport really limits which countries will give you a visa, especially if you haven’t travelled much. And, there can be rather long wait to get a visa to anywhere in europe, even if you get one.
So, getting a visa to anywhere out of Iran, especially somewhere you may have (or think you may make) some sort of a connection, can be the 1st step in trying to emigrate or seek asylum in a european country.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 6:57:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Army Air Corps

I was going off a report I read yesterday(or the day before) that stated the plane carried enough fuel for 2300 mile trip.

However, with your info in hand I went back and looked up the distance from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, 2700 miles(2340 nautical miles). So it seems the report I read stating 2300 miles of fuel was probably inaccurate.

In other words, you may be right that the plane was carrying enough fuel to get to Somalia. And now I’m recalling the report that one of those that boarded looked like the soccer star, Mario Balotelli.

Obviously there’s probably much more the authorities know that they aren’t letting on to at this time.


24 posted on 03/11/2014 7:06:28 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Malaysians are lying

They need to come clean with what they know


25 posted on 03/11/2014 7:07:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 11th_VA

“Do we know the pilot’s names?”

Exactly...it would take two to do that tango.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 7:09:32 AM PDT by moovova
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To: fiftymegaton

They likely had enough fuel to reach Beijing with a bit extra for emergencies just to save costs. Let’s say that it was enough go-go juice for 3,000nm. If they were flying with a full fuel load, then they would have a helluva range.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 7:14:05 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: fiftymegaton

Sounds like we’re about to find the plane.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 7:15:49 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: moovova
"Exactly...it would take two to do that tango.

It would take more than two to pull this off. In addition to the pilots being involved, a fairly large team would be required to control the passengers.

29 posted on 03/11/2014 7:17:32 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: cardinal4

What the heck.


30 posted on 03/11/2014 7:17:54 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Mr. K

“um.... so why did they let the search continue in the wrong place?”

big fat coverup


31 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:48 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think, if the plane was diverted and if it landed intact (two HUGE ifs), the only purpose it can possibly have is as a cruise missile.

Like the plot in Debt of Honor, approaching aircraft from out of CONUS are not “already in the system”, like AA 11 was on 9/11. They have to be accepted, and if they replace a real, expected flight and can spoof the electronic ID, they can get quite close to LAX, JFK, or IAD without causing a scramble.

I do not know if measures have been put in place after 9/11 to prevent a Debt of Honor attack.

Hopefully, there’s wreckage and they find it soon.


32 posted on 03/11/2014 7:24:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: txhurl

This might very well turn out to be the largest ‘kidnapping for ransom’ crime to date.


33 posted on 03/11/2014 7:25:53 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Jim Noble

I’ve been thinking about that book for the last two days. It’s been awhile since I’ve read it, and I don’t remember the particulars.

But needless to say, as bad as it sounds, I’m in agreement with your last sentence.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 7:27:48 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

We could spend a couple hours googling and finding viable landing strips.

I haven’t read about any bounties, but I’m sure they exist.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 7:29:50 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Hah! I happened to be looking up related info, and you are right when you say HOURS, but for one, the Maldives have 3 ‘official’ paved runways over 1500 meters, 2 of which are over 2400 meters.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 7:33:41 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: Army Air Corps; Travis McGee

Thanks for posting the link. Interesting in that, a fully loaded 777-200 could reach many unfriendly Islamo countries.

http://www.boeing.com/assets/images/commercial/777family/images/rc_dubai.gif


37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: fiftymegaton

Those would work.


38 posted on 03/11/2014 7:43:43 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, Bammy and company are in desperate need of a “false flag” operation just about now.....


39 posted on 03/11/2014 7:44:06 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: fiftymegaton

The key is that a pilot kills his co-pilot in a transport aircraft at Vancouver, BC, flies to IAD, declares an emergency approaching the ILS and requests Andrews, and from there wide open it’s 30 seconds to the Capitol.


40 posted on 03/11/2014 7:45:06 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pirates. It would be amazing. Steal a state of the art aircraft, and keep a dozen countries stumped for days in regards to its whereabouts. Got to give them credit for their ambition and brass in doing it if that’s what happened.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 7:46:39 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Grampa Dave

If we were informed correctly, the plane had 7.5 hours of fuel on board. How far can it go in 7.5 hours?


42 posted on 03/11/2014 7:48:41 AM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

Look at me. I’m the pilot now.


43 posted on 03/11/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Army Air Corps; txhurl; Jim Noble; Cowgirl of Justice

For the record: Kuala Lumpur is roughly 3900 miles(3300 nautical miles) to Mogadishu.

Seems a bit far for a passenger/hijacker to be confident there would be enough fuel on board in order to make it.


44 posted on 03/11/2014 7:52:59 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: virgil

Well, the typical cruising speed is .80 Mach at 35,000 feet. The range that they can travel in 7.5 hours will depend on their airspeed and altitude.


45 posted on 03/11/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: fiftymegaton

My gut feeling is the plane is near Banda Aceh or NW of it. Millions of little islands.


46 posted on 03/11/2014 8:00:06 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: virgil

I’m not a pilot, but maybe the charts in the link below can give you a good guess/estimate.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_200product.page


47 posted on 03/11/2014 8:09:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: virgil

If it were an act of piracy, somewhere Blackbeard is raising a tankard of grog in salute, saying “Well done, me hearties!”


48 posted on 03/11/2014 8:12:54 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: lacrew

What if in flight a malfunction occurred causing an electric fire?
You need the ability to turn off ALL the stuff in your aircraft.


49 posted on 03/11/2014 8:23:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It.... TURNED....

....and headed for a new destination.....

But this isn't a hijacking.

50 posted on 03/11/2014 8:29:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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