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RAND PAUL ON TED CRUZ: "I'M NOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT HIM MISCHARACTERIZING MY VIEWS"
Breitbart ^ | 03/11/2014 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 03/11/2014 8:02:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Sen. Rand Paul continued his aggressive brush back of comments from his usual ally Sen. Ted Cruz suggesting that Paul is positioned at the left, dovish flank of the GOP on foreign policy, telling Fox News host Sean Hannity Cruz was “mischaracterizing” his views.

“We always have been good friends. I'm not real excited about him mischaracterizing my views. I won't let that pass. I think that sometimes want to stand up and say hey, look at me, I'm the next Ronald Reagan. Well, almost all of us in the party are big fans of Ronald Reagan,” Paul said.

“I've always been a big fan of peace through strength. I think America should and has a responsibility around the world and really, virtually all of the opinions that have been coming from Republicans are somewhat the same on this – that Putin should be condemned, he should be isolated. I favor sanctions on Putin. So, for people to characterize that as somehow not being the Reagan position, I think they need to have a re-reading of Reagan, frankly,” Paul added.

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To: Dead Corpse
"Rand wants to build a fence"

LOL. His legalized illegals and their extended family members can admire it as they pass in and out of the gates with their shiny new Green Cards.

141 posted on 03/11/2014 3:21:38 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Green cards (which go to someone with a job) are not the problem, bums are.


142 posted on 03/11/2014 3:22:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: marron
Cruz/Anyone would suit me.

I'd even vote Cruz/Walker.

143 posted on 03/11/2014 3:25:17 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ilgipper

Not sure why it should be such a point of intense argument since we’re going to end up with Ron Paul’s foreign policy anyway. It’s more a matter of doing it in a manner where it can be done in a controlled and somewhat orderly matter or in horrible mess where just getting the troops home is a struggle.


144 posted on 03/11/2014 3:26:04 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Sirius Lee

Would Cruz/Paul be like CatDog?


145 posted on 03/11/2014 3:27:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Ted did Rand a big favor in my opinion.


146 posted on 03/11/2014 3:27:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Man/Wife, yin/yang


147 posted on 03/11/2014 3:28:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“It’s especially hard to believe that it was only a decade ago, on a cold April day on a small hill in upstate New York, that another of these great thinkers, Frank Meyer, was buried. He’d made the awful journey that so many others had: he pulled himself from the clutches of ‘The [communist] God That Failed,’ and then in his writing fashioned a vigorous new synthesis of traditional and libertarian thought – a synthesis that is today recognized by many as modern conservatism.

It was Frank Meyer who reminded us that the robust individualism of the American experience was part of the deeper current of Western learning and culture. He pointed out that a respect for law, an appreciation for tradition, and regard for the social consensus that gives stability to our public and private institutions, these civilized ideas must still motivate us even as we seek a new economic prosperity based on reducing government interference in the marketplace. Our goals complement each other. We’re not cutting the budget simply for the sake of sounder financial management. This is only a first step toward returning power to the states and communities, only a first step toward reordering the relationship between citizen and government.

We can make government again responsive to the people by cutting its size and scope and thereby ensuring that its legitimate functions are performed efficiently and justly. Because ours is a consistent philosophy of government, we can be very clear: We do not have a separate social agenda, separate economic agenda, and a separate foreign agenda. We have one agenda. Just as surely as we seek to put our financial house in order and rebuild our nation’s defenses, so too we seek to protect the unborn, to end the manipulation of schoolchildren by utopian planners, and permit the acknowledgement of a Supreme Being in our classrooms just as we allow such acknowledgements in other public institutions.”

Reagan speaking on what has become the subject matter of this thread. Pretty interesting stuff. Here’s more from Heritage:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/01/the-conservative-consensus-frank-meyer-barry-goldwater-and-the-politics-of-fusionism

It’s a far cry from the nonsense we’ve seen in this thread about “liberaltarians” being socialists and whatnot.


148 posted on 03/11/2014 4:49:37 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: marron

“I hope they don’t get too bitter, though, because at the end of it they may be running mates.”

I will vote for Cruz, but not if he has Rand Paul as a running mate. I WILL NOT allow that man to get near being POTUS. He is a wackadoodle just like his nutcase daddy.

He is NOT a conservative Republican....he is a Libertarian and IF he had any integrity he would run as a Libertarian and stop screwing up the GOP. I despise Paul and his Libertarian faction as much as I do the GOP establishment that gave us Romney.

I am a Social/Moral Conservative Republican, and I want a presidential candidate that FULLY shares my values and goals.


149 posted on 03/11/2014 5:13:53 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Earthdweller

We’ll miss you I guess, though I hope he runs to at least bring up issues that might otherwise not get brought up.


150 posted on 03/11/2014 5:16:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“These two guys should be on the same side......”

No, No, NO! Paul is NOT a conservative, he is a Libertarian and not of the same camp as Cruz. I will gladly support Cruz until he compromizes and sides with wackadoodle Paul.


151 posted on 03/11/2014 5:16:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: marron

It’s never too early for Republicans to take their eyes off the ball and start shooting at each other.


152 posted on 03/11/2014 5:17:46 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: cdcdawg; Servant of the Cross
It’s a far cry from the nonsense we’ve seen in this thread about “liberaltarians” being socialists and whatnot.

Don't confuse the big "L" Libertarians (Socialists, amoral conservatives) with the small 'l' libertarians (Reagan).

Vastly different animal.

The big 'L' Libertarians, believe in the following(they are a nasty lot):

1. Gay Marriage
2. Amnesty
3. Abortion (Neither for it or against it)
4. Neville Chamberlin type Foreign Policy.

They are not your friend if you are truly a conservative.
153 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Dead Corpse; Dagnabitt
Rand wants to build a fence and have annual Congressional inspections to ensure it’s working.

You've mischaracterized his plan and left out salient bits of information.

He wants to build a fence, but then ask Congress to certify that the border is secure to grant amnesty to another 2 million Illegal Immigrants (Undocumented Democrats).

The same congress that is already 75% open border, at least 50% of which, no matter what is done on the border or how secure it really is, will vote to certify the border is secure, especially since for the Democrats it means enough voters to destroy the GOP, and for the Crony Capitalists in the GOP, it means pleasing their large Corporate Campaign Donors and ensuring their re-election and cushy jobs when they retire.
154 posted on 03/11/2014 7:23:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Very true. There’s the philosophy with the “l” and the party with the “L”. I’m often on Reason’s Facebook page “reasoning” with the L types, mostly about immigration. You are correct, many of them are quite nasty. Feel free to use this against them if the situation arises. Tell them you only want the same immigration policies that Galt’s Gulch had in Atlas Shrugged (you had to be invited in), and for the same reasons. Exploding heads will follow.


155 posted on 03/11/2014 7:44:04 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg
Tell them you only want the same immigration policies that Galt’s Gulch had in Atlas Shrugged (you had to be invited in), and for the same reasons. Exploding heads will follow.

I like that approach.

Sadly, human nature being what it is, you sometimes, no strike that, a lot of the time, you have get somebody really mad before they start to question what they have agreed with and see the light.
156 posted on 03/11/2014 7:48:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve mischaracterized nothing.

http://www.paul.senate.gov/files/documents/TrustButVerify.pdf

Why should I when the text of his amendment is so damn easy to read?

You’ll read into it what you want. You’ve shown a propensity for that when you don’t like the plain facts....


157 posted on 03/11/2014 7:51:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: SoConPubbie

“a lot of the time, you have get somebody really mad before they start to question what they have agreed with”

So very true. That argument about immigration has the benefit of using the work of one of their icons and one of her basic tenets (non-contradiction) against them. They have to disavow Ayn Rand, change their view on immigration, or start spinning. They usually start spinning. That’s good. It could lead to thinking.


158 posted on 03/11/2014 7:55:48 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: SoConPubbie

At least we agree there...

Big L libertarians are exactly as you describe them and really aren’t our friends.


159 posted on 03/11/2014 7:56:13 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: marron

They’ll never run Palin. The left has done too good a job destroying her.

And it won’t be Cruz and Paul because there is not enough ‘diversity.’

It will either be Cruz + white female, black male, black female. His running mate will run a little more to the independent/moderate side to balance out the ‘extremism’ that the left is painting him with.

Or

Paul + Latino male, Latino female, black female, black male. His running mate will run a little more to the socially conservative side to balance out the “Libertarian” that the left is painting him with.

I think it is disgusting that demographics have taken over politics, but it has.


160 posted on 03/11/2014 8:18:56 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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