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Ted Cruz is Rand Paul's most dangerous foreign policy critic
Washington Examiner ^ | MARCH 11, 2014 AT 2:07 PM | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2014 7:11:13 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: ansel12

I’ve explained and explained and it keeps on falling on deaf ears because you want to keep shoving me into your self made self righteous mold.

Some day, results will force you to re-evaluate your priorities. If you have any grip on sanity left.


121 posted on 03/12/2014 10:02:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s revealing that the reaction to post 108 from our libertarian crowd, is come at me, and in your case, appearing to agree with the politics revealed in it.


122 posted on 03/12/2014 10:07:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Why would I get booted for being a Constitutional Conservative aka Classical Liberal aka paleoconservative?

I do have one important difference with some outspoken paleocons. I fully support Israel.

As you review my posting history you will find I have always been pro-life, always anti homosexual agenda, always anti illegal immigration. You will also find I am not a big fan of so called free trade and I am a CAGW skeptic.

123 posted on 03/12/2014 10:08:20 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: ansel12

Might as well strain towards the goal that really WILL make a difference.

You want to plug the finger size hole while ignoring the 3 foot wide hole.


124 posted on 03/12/2014 10:10:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jpsb

I don’t know why you express fears of being booted if your political agenda is put into the open, just as i don’t know why you won’t ping the person who’s abortion views you said you disagreed with.


125 posted on 03/12/2014 10:10:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

All you can do is huff impotently and blame.

It would be only amusing if it weren’t distracting attention from what really matters.


126 posted on 03/12/2014 10:12:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jpsb; moder_ator
Seeing that you responded to the post, jpsb, I took a look at it (otherwise I just pass up reading the guy's posts; I have neither mentioned him by name nor posted to him on this thread that I recall, yet he is posting to me like a madman) -- wow.

Rather interesting that the guy misinterpreted that post, way back from 2007 (nearly 7 years ago! I'm flattered he went to such trouble) the way he did. Ostensibly not agreeing with his authoritarian approach for "solving" moral issues is the equivalent of being morally depraved and evil yourself.

HELLO, MODERATORS? Why the double standard -- the last time I did something like what the author of post 108 did, but on a different thread, you deleted MY post; ironically, I did that to the very author of post 108, and when I got the word from you guys that it's not done, I piped down. Here same guy gets away with the same? Huh??? I don't mind, because I stand by what I wrote: the Church and the Almighty are the most effective ways to halt abortion; nowhere do I promote keeping it legal, I only say that expecting government to solve it is a pipe dream; that this nuttier-than-a-squirrel-turd whackjob twists that into "you support legal abortion" is his problem.

But he is also YOUR problem. Folks like me and jpsb treat it like water off a duck, but Jim Robinson has probably lost $$$$$$ because of newbie conservatives who don't come here to get slimed by crazy liars, and they leave long before they attach themselves enough to donate to the FReepathons.

The guy is costing you money, dudes.

127 posted on 03/12/2014 10:14:29 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

That post wasn’t misinterpreted, you repeat the level of your abortion interest, or lack of it, and the reasons not to pursue abortion laws, over and over, throughout your posting history, it is your position on abortion, not what you were dishonestly claiming for the purposes of this thread.


128 posted on 03/12/2014 10:20:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Finny
" Ostensibly not agreeing with his authoritarian approach for "solving" moral issues is the equivalent of being morally depraved and evil yourself."

"nowhere do I promote keeping it legal, I only say that expecting government to solve it is a pipe dream"

Why not, why should we not want to make abortion illegal?

129 posted on 03/12/2014 10:23:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12; Finny

Aw, finny doesn’t want to use the fire extinguisher on the 5-alarm fire. Because we have a fire hose and hydrant here we ain’t using.

Knock yourself out ansel if you want to politic to stop abortions by fiat and we won’t refuse your politicians votes if they are even half credible.

But why this curious coldness towards evangelization? The blame shoe can easily go on the OTHER foot.


130 posted on 03/12/2014 10:27:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What a wonderful, concise way to state it: ... finny doesn’t want to use the fire extinguisher on the 5-alarm fire. Because we have a fire hose and hydrant here we ain’t using.

God bless you and yours, HTRN. Your words above are a FABULOUS and clear-sighted way to summarize it!

131 posted on 03/12/2014 10:30:17 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: jpsb; Finny; HiTech RedNeck
Well it is true that abortions happened even when they were illegal. But abortion should not be legal because by making them legal society is condoning murder. Just because society can not prevent all murder does not mean it should condone murder.

I see we agree jpsb. I'm curious to see the heat you draw for your "authoritarian approach for "solving" moral issues" or your "dream of “strong political action” while proposing to stand on a quicksand".

132 posted on 03/12/2014 10:31:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Finny

Well Finny we got to be careful to make good on the fire hose.

I’ve gotten involved in trying to do evangelization via songwriting. I’m putting things into songs that you don’t normally SEE in today’s contemporary Christian fare, or in most old hymns either. Like God in our face. Why can they
write about what a rapper did, and make it look more credible than what God did? It’s a shame to say.

But however we do it. We need to DO it. We can’t sit on sidelines and carp. God will not bless that either!


133 posted on 03/12/2014 10:33:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

To make this work you are going to have to try to recreate, by fiat, a platform that ignoring God long took away.

The sane try to get the platform rebuilt. The insane try to build on nonexistent platform.


134 posted on 03/12/2014 10:35:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12
Yes ansel we agree abortion should be outlawed at the federal level. Our founding documents say that all persons are entitled to life, to me that make the issue of protecting life a federal responsibility if the states will not do it.

However we will not make progress until conservatives get to appoint lots of federal judges so until then we need to concentrate on electing conservatives at all levels of government.

135 posted on 03/12/2014 10:39:03 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And ironic, too, because it shows how much more crucial abortion has become as an issue to me even over only seven years. The truth: Romney's words -- I heard him speak them, from his own mouth -- that he believed if a minor girl got pregnant but her parents refused to allow her to get an abortion, had the right to go to a judge to see if he would over-rule her parents, and if the judge did then by golly, she should be able to have that abortion -- THAT was just too much, pure depravity, pure evil; paired with his adamant and consistent advocacy of promoting "outreach" by homosexuals to CHILDREN via "Gay Youth Pride" -- that clinched it. There is no way on God's green earth that I would ever cast my vote to put such an agent of evil in office. I have enough to answer for to God; I fear Him infinitely more than I fear Obama.

So ... I refused Romney (and voted third party) in large part because of Romney's stance on abortion!! {^) Kind of a single-issue take that not that very long ago, I didn't think was in me!

I'm grateful to and for Free Republic. May God keep it prosperous, free, and safe.

136 posted on 03/12/2014 10:41:13 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why can’t we do both?

On the political threads, when we are discussing who to nominate and who to vote for and which party platform to support, and who to reject and oppose, why can’t we take pro-life political positions, and advance our pro-life politics and legislators?


137 posted on 03/12/2014 10:41:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well Finny we got to be careful to make good on the fire hose.

You are right. Thanks for the reminder.

138 posted on 03/12/2014 10:42:59 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ansel12

If you want to go ahead and try to get support for bans after the evangelists have done their things... ban on. It’s banning murders, after all.

I just see a lot of waste motion until the platform has been laid. Maybe it isn’t. Maybe the very attempts at least keep the memory of the goal alive. But I sure see what looks like a blame machine from your end... that if we get out that fire hose and ignore your fire extinguisher we somehow want the fire to burn. Now THAT is self righteousness.


139 posted on 03/12/2014 10:45:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jpsb; Finny

Abortion should be outlawed at all levels, I tried to win finny over to that case, but she won’t have any of it.


140 posted on 03/12/2014 10:46:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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