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DASHCAM VIDEO: York Co. deputy shoots man reaching for cane
herald online ^ | 3-3-14 | unattributed

Posted on 03/13/2014 8:53:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog

The York County Sheriff's Office released dash cam video from a traffic stop in which a deputy shot an elderly man reaching for his cane. WARNING: Video includes some graphic material and language.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldonline.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: banglist; brucebryant; cane; cops; donutwatch; jbta; pa; pennsylvania; police; policecorruption; sheriffbrucebryant; terranceknox; york
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Oh, sh**!!
1 posted on 03/13/2014 8:53:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

During a news conference at the York County Detention Center, Sheriff Bruce Bryant said deputies reviewed video of the incident “time and time and time again” and feel that Deputy Terrance Knox did nothing wrong when he fired his service weapon during a traffic stop...

Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/2014/03/12/5761818/york-co-sheriff-to-release-video.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop#storylink=cpy


2 posted on 03/13/2014 8:57:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
.. Sheriff Bruce Bryant said deputies reviewed video of the incident “time and time and time again” and feel that Deputy Terrance Knox did nothing wrong ..

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3 posted on 03/13/2014 9:01:28 PM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: smokingfrog

Then their policy sure as hell is wrong.


4 posted on 03/13/2014 9:02:43 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: smokingfrog

Sounds like the old guy did everything wrong. I feel sorry for the cop.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 9:03:37 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: smokingfrog; Alaska Wolf; doc1019; TexasFreeper2009; Respond Code Three

JBT ping list


6 posted on 03/13/2014 9:04:43 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: smokingfrog

According to FNC, the cop fired six shots and only hit the guy with the cane only once. He’s going to survive the shooting. What pissed me off was the cop’s “fellow officers and his chief” saying that he did the “right thing.” The lack of concern for other human beings on the part of most cops to day is criminal.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 9:05:24 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: smokingfrog
This happens over and over, and now it's perfectly acceptable. Just look at all the comments supporting the LEO. This is pure police state mentality.

This is the kind of reaction liberals said would be the result of concealed carry laws being passed (i.e., concealed carriers opening fire without cause), and instead, ironically, it is the new modus operandi of our local law enforcement.
8 posted on 03/13/2014 9:06:38 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Theo

Older people sometimes don’t use very good judgment, and are not accustomed to dealing with police. They don’t deserve to be shot for making a dumb mistake. Never did I hear the cop say to stay in your vehicle, which is customary when you see the driver start to open his door.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 9:07:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: andyk

Yeah. I guess the officer was just “standing his ground.”


10 posted on 03/13/2014 9:08:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
During a news conference at the York County Detention Center, Sheriff Bruce Bryant said deputies reviewed video of the incident “time and time and time again” and feel that Deputy Terrance Knox did nothing wrong when he fired his service weapon during a traffic stop...

The cop said "I'm sorry" about a dozen times. Obviously HE thought he did something wrong. He asked the Lord to forgive him at least a half dozen times.

The cop panicked over nothing. It was a bad shooting and he knew it.

11 posted on 03/13/2014 9:09:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: smokingfrog

Sorry I am not buy this one and as someone who stood gate guard duty in the military, two things are wrong here, first the old Man was clearly unstable as he got out of the truck and two the officer has the benefit of his car door protecting him from the start.

My old gun training Master Chief said it best, “You better thinking and be 100% and damn sure before you pull that trigger because, you can’t recall bullets once their are fired!”


12 posted on 03/13/2014 9:10:04 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: vette6387
"What pissed me off was the cop’s “fellow officers and his chief” saying that he did the “right thing.”"

Yeah some local LEO wannabe tried to tell me the same shit so I asked him if another cop had seen the incident and shot the cop who was shooting an unarmed man in an attempt to save the unarmed man's life would THAT Cop be in the right?

Amazingly he couldn't figure out how to answer.

13 posted on 03/13/2014 9:10:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: smokingfrog

I guess, to mollify all of FR’s cops, I will hold on commenting about this specific incident for now.

But, all these type incidents seem to have one common denominator. Namely, when a cop rolls up on a scene like this should he be able to open fire on a citizen based upon what he THINKS?!?!?!

I say NO!

His training, in my opinion should train him to hold fire that 1,000th of a second until he KNOWS!!!!! He gets paid to take that 1,000th of a second risk!!

If he doesn’t want to take that risk, then turn in the badge and the gun and go drive a concrete truck!


14 posted on 03/13/2014 9:11:12 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: vette6387

>> What pissed me off was the cop’s “fellow officers and his chief” saying that he did the “right thing.”

Agreed — pig-headed denial.

Bad calculation by the deputy. I can see how the cane was initially perceived to be a long gun, but once the deputy acquired target fixation, there was apparently no letting go. Too bad. Heard the deputy was pretty upset.


15 posted on 03/13/2014 9:11:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Theo
Sounds like the old guy did everything wrong. I feel sorry for the cop.

Yup.

The old guy should never have gotten out of his truck. Reaching for his cane was an absolutely stupid thing to do.

He should realize by now that our LEO's are scared $__tless of every citizen they stop and are fully combat trained to neutralize any perceived threat with overwhelming firepower.

KUDOS to the Cop who's training came through!

/ Sarcasm

16 posted on 03/13/2014 9:13:32 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: smokingfrog

More like a Barney Fife stupid ass cop than an jack booted thug type. Sick of this attitude of shoot first by cops.


17 posted on 03/13/2014 9:18:13 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: smokingfrog
Deputy Terrance Knox did nothing wrong when he fired his service weapon

Ummm..... Except he shot an innocent man who was doing nothing wrong.

18 posted on 03/13/2014 9:19:17 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Theo

“Sounds like the old guy did everything wrong. I feel sorry for the cop.”
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A very elderly man is shot in the chest by a nervous cop with pour judgement and the wrong temperament for a law enforcement officer for the crime of reaching to get his cane. The cop is getting an additional paid vacation now (known to government employees as paid administrative leave) while his department goes through the process of exonerating him. And you feel sorry for the cop?

Look, I know the cop feels bad because he F**K*D UP (and that is what he did). But he clearly doesn’t have the fortitude or judgement to be a law enforcement officer IMHO.

Well, at least the cop got home safely that night and that’s the important thing.


19 posted on 03/13/2014 9:19:24 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: smokingfrog
Older people sometimes don’t use very good judgment

Yeah, if you fought for freedom in WW2, and didn't grow up in a police state, it is easy to think you can still get out of your car and go over and talk to a cop. The rest of us know to stay in car, heads bowed, eyes down, hands on the steering wheel, and say "yes sir" and "no sir".

20 posted on 03/13/2014 9:21:16 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: vette6387

“The lack of concern for other human beings on the part of most cops to day is criminal.”

Like they have for dogs?


21 posted on 03/13/2014 9:23:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: House Atreides

Just a CS Cop with no communication skills! How many stickers on the Patrol car? dogs, juveniles, cats, Grandmas. and old guys with canes?
But not one criminal!
Kill with no weapon trained on you, fired gone kapoot and therapy for life! Kiss your ass goodbye MR. LEO!
How hard is it to yell Hands in the air?
This Cop had to feel that trigger squeeze! HE lived for the day of that special Kill!


22 posted on 03/13/2014 9:26:59 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: smokingfrog

This happened in York County, SC, not York County, PA. Original thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3127477/posts


23 posted on 03/13/2014 9:28:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: upchuck

SC ping.


24 posted on 03/13/2014 9:28:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: smokingfrog

That is just awful. Of course since we can’t see the $#%@ing shooting who knows what really happened? I can’t understand half of what was being said but from the tone of voice that cop was panicked to the max.


25 posted on 03/13/2014 9:29:18 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Defiant

Sadly, you nailed it.


26 posted on 03/13/2014 9:31:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Like they have for dogs?”

Exactly! I am teaching my dog how to use an AR.


27 posted on 03/13/2014 9:32:37 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

the cop is a robocop very dangerous training. but sounds like a nice person. after he shoots the cooter.


28 posted on 03/13/2014 9:33:02 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Slings and Arrows

Thanks for the correction.


29 posted on 03/13/2014 9:37:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
The Dunn guy in FL just got convicted of 4 counts of attempted murder and will be tried again for murder because he reacted in a similar fashion in a far more threatening situation.

The other cops saying the shooter did the right thing is mind boggling.

Well at least the officer went home safe./sarc

Can't say the same for his victim.

30 posted on 03/13/2014 9:38:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: smokingfrog

My pleasure.


31 posted on 03/13/2014 9:41:09 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: smokingfrog

“They don’t deserve to be shot for making a dumb mistake”

NO $HIT! But just how is it dumb? Are you dumb because you believe that you’ve done nothing approaching being shot for and so you get out of your car? You mean today the cops can come up on you for a frigging expired tag and just blow you away for stepping out of your vehicle? This idiot should never be allowed to put on a badge and a gun again, and the local folks should vote his boss off the LEO island via a recall.


32 posted on 03/13/2014 9:44:38 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: smokingfrog

The police are telling us something.

This is happening more and more, over and over.

THEY DON’T TRUST the very people that they are supposed to be protecting and serving.

THEY feel threatened by EVERYONE and they don’t believe that they have the ability to protect THEMSELVES.

The cop mistook the cane for a long gun.,ok, that’s believable. But why did he assume that an old man was going to shoot him? It’s not like the old man was going to get the jump on him! Did the cop think the old man was a better shot than he was?

Yes, being a cop is dangerous work, that’s the job! I choose not to run into burning buildings for a living, so therefore I don’t sign up to be a firefighter, if you cant handle the danger of being a cop, don’t become a cop!

It would appear to me that the only real gun control we need is for COPS!


33 posted on 03/13/2014 9:45:29 PM PDT by tonyinv (I no longer care enough to even say 'I told you so')
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To: Parley Baer

The sheriff stated that it is their policy that the officers make it home safely, I have heard that excuse a lot over the years and think is the result of the training the police are given by the Feds. My question is doesn’t the public have a right to make it home safely also? It appears that if a cop gets scared all he cares about is his butt, even if it means killing someone who is innocent of any crime. They need to stop blaming the victim and look at their own policies.


34 posted on 03/13/2014 9:50:27 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Theo
Sounds like the old guy did everything wrong. I feel sorry for the cop.

Idiot cop did everything wrong. Should be fired, and sued. Cop didn't tell him to get back in the car. Cop started shooting before warning the old man. The cop just lost it, and blazed away. I feel sorry for the old man. Cops are cold blooded killers today, or idiots.

35 posted on 03/13/2014 9:52:50 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: smokingfrog

Dunno on this one.

Slapped this up on the big screen.

Under the conditions and lighting I can it going the way it did.

The cop’s reaction of sheer panic and sorrow was appropriate...if that’s the right way to say it.

Bad deal all around...

***Flame Suit On***

You guys know I’m not a Cop Sucker...


36 posted on 03/13/2014 9:55:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: bigbob

Shorter video.

Straight to action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgDbTelamDI


37 posted on 03/13/2014 9:58:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: smokingfrog
The cop panicked - pure and simple.

HE panicked and shot and screamed to dispatcher “Shots fired, Shots fired!” - in a real panic, before he knew he shot an man with a cane.

If a cop is that afraid and panics that easy - he does not belong behind a badge and a gun.

And when did they finally call for an ambulance???

At least, he had the humanity to have remorse - maybe enough to hang up the gun, one could hope. He doesn't have the control or nerves for the job.

38 posted on 03/13/2014 10:08:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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Yeah, why did he get out of the truck? Why didn’t the cop tell him to get back in the truck?

I will not reach for my cane in the presence of a police officer!


39 posted on 03/13/2014 10:12:16 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, my question. Why didn’t he tell him to get back in the truck?


40 posted on 03/13/2014 10:13:49 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: smokingfrog

I dont give a Rats Ass what they say, FIRST DEGREE ATTEMPTED MURDER.


41 posted on 03/13/2014 10:13:57 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: maine-iac7
At least, he had the humanity to have remorse - maybe enough to hang up the gun, one could hope. He doesn't have the control or nerves for the job.

Kelly had this on FOX tonight, other cops at scene said he did the right thing, his supervisor said he responded correctly.

The whole bunch of bastards should be fired if that's their position, they're unfit to be cops.

What if I gunned down an old man with a cane because I thought it was a gun?
How would that work out for a regular citizen and believe me, nobody in authority would be saying I did the right thing.

42 posted on 03/13/2014 10:24:06 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: grame
I will not reach for my cane in the presence of a police officer!

And don't answer the door with a video game controller in your had as well: known to get you killed by a cop.

43 posted on 03/13/2014 10:28:31 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Vendome
You guys know I’m not a Cop Sucker...

You are now! You can never take the side of the cops. NEVER!!!!!!!! /s ;^)

44 posted on 03/13/2014 10:53:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: tomkat

we have some really unprofessional and deadly cops out here! Good grief!


45 posted on 03/13/2014 10:57:38 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: vette6387

Criminal is correct...when will it stop!?


46 posted on 03/13/2014 10:58:33 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: smokingfrog

His wife is also lucky the cop didn’t blow her head off either while she was sitting in the truck. You can see the bullets going through the back window of the pickup.


47 posted on 03/13/2014 11:08:16 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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“Criminal is correct...when will it stop!?”

Don’t know, but from where I sit we have two problems, Feral Blacks and Feral Cops. The only difference is that the Feral Cops get away with it most of the time, while the Feral Blacks often find it life-ending.


48 posted on 03/13/2014 11:10:46 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387; Jack Hydrazine

I’m going to the pound and getting an unpleasant dog that I will not become emotionally attached to.


49 posted on 03/13/2014 11:13:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Obviously you need reeducation peasant./sarc


50 posted on 03/13/2014 11:15:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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