“...America is finished...”
You know, ForYourChildren, I don’t want to slam you or Logical Me for thinking that way. It’s easy to get the impression that things are beyond repair. And my intention here is not to start a flame war, so don’t take it that way.
But - Think about this:
I’m sure ordinary Germans felt that way too as their version of what we currently have was closing down on them, from 1932-145. Not every German citizen was an enthusiastic rabid Nazi. Many were, sure, but many weren’t.
How many of THOSE people felt the same despair, that resistance was futile... watching their neighbors turn on each other, or disappear, or have everything confiscated...
and yet... there WAS a German Resistance.
And a Dutch Resistance. And Yugoslavian Resistance. And Finnish Resistance. And yes, a French Resistance too. And yes, some of those groups were communist cells (unfortunately).
The point is - THEY RESISTED. THEY DIDN’T QUIT. Even when it appeared “finished” and at it’s most hopeless. They died defending what they believed in.
They pushed - above ground, and then underground when necessary. And when there was a day of retribution - and there ALWAYS is - they were there to mete it out.
The fight is only “over” when YOU quit fighting. And if the only fight you can manage is to simply stay put and help keep someone else’s hope alive, then you’re still in it.
So... yeah. It sucks right now. It COULD suck a whole lot worse. But until that time, you do whatever you have to do to PREVENT it from sucking worse.
We had it good for a long time. That bill comes due. It always does. And if this is our time to pay it, then it is what it is.
Don’t know any simpler way to put it.
Yes we have and this situation most likely caught a lot of people by surprise. Most probably thought this could not happen and now their perplexed seeing that it really is. Thank you for helping me send a message to the towel throwers.
btw, I dont take intelligent discussion as a flame war; intelligent discussion is a good way to get all ideas properly vetted and developed.
This isn’t America. I don’t expect some people to get it. But, this isn’t America. It is America in name only (AINA). The old and original America has metamorphasized into a hideous ugly beast. See my post #36.
Also, anytime a country goes through a revolution, or civil war, the result is that it becomes a new country - for better or worse. The name may or may not change, but it will be different, usually radically different.
Also, the process of what lead up to the conflict could be as a result of a change in the government of the country where the people needed to resist. Just like Germany was a different Germany before Hitler, during Hitler, and after Hitler. They could have just as easily had changed the name because it was a different country, with a different “constitution”, each time during those phases. They may have wanted to keep the name due to an emotional attachment, or to use the name to create a patriotic fervor. “For the fatherland.” Resistance to Hitlers Nazi Germany was a correct behaviour.
For this specific reason and definition, I can say correctly say, that “America” is toast.
America was an entity created on paper - the constitution. That entity is no longer valid.
I believe it is important to realize what I am pointing out. Then way we have an understanding of the proper methods to deal with the hideous fed beast.
I dont disagree in principle with what most of you are saying. I just want to make sure we understand it as fully as we can. So we can make smart decisions. The hideous fed beast wants to create an emotional fervor. They like that. It is part of what they do to continually feed on its people. Get ready, but think it through.
NFHale uses Nazi Germany as a case study, there was appropriately “German Resistance, ..and a Dutch Resistance. And Yugoslavian Resistance. And Finnish Resistance. And yes, a French Resistance.” That entity of Hitlers Nazi Germany, is not the same as the previous Germany, nor is it the same as post Nazi Germany. They are different. The analogy, I believe, would be that in America right now, we are in a Nazi time period at the point where the Nazi’s are just getting started and are slowly turning up the heat.
I am also saying that some of the individual states get what I am saying. Read also the end of my post #32 discussing using the states. Some states will support the fed beast, and some wont. It will be easier for states to roll over and let the feds take complete control. But in some states, the government wont want to let the fed usurp their authority. You can see that happening now. These states will use their government power and “righteous” authority to keep the fed beast away. I believe we need to work with these states as much as possible, encourage them, help them. I believe as individuals we should always prepare just as everyone has described here.
For this reason, I agree with all of you. Be prepared. And, identify and work with the states that want to keep the fed beast away.