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Radar Hits of 'Significant Size' Registered in Indian Ocean: Flight Crew
ABC NEWS ^ | 4-20-2014 | ABC News

Posted on 03/19/2014 11:12:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf

A flight crew scouring the southern Indian Ocean for a missing Malaysia Airlines plane tells ABC News that they're getting radar hits of "significant size," indicating something lurking below the water's surface.

ABC News' David Wright, on board the US Navy P-8 Poseidon, said the crew tells him the radar indicates "there is something down there."

It is still too early to tell if the radar hits are related to the missing plane, which was carrying 239 people when it disappeared on March 8.

The P-8 is among four aircraft and one merchant ship heading to a region off the coast of Australia after two objects that may be related to the plane were spotted by satellite, officials said Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; australiasearch; iran; malaysia; malaysian; mh370; planecrash; search; waronterror
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To: Haiku Guy

From my experience, most official communication times are ZULU (GMT) so to avoid any confusion with time zones. Four years US Army Strategic Communications Command. Crypto Tech and Fixed Station Tech Control.

The only time we used local time at the comm centers was for shift changes.


41 posted on 03/20/2014 5:29:56 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Red in Blue PA
>>>The irony of this tragedy is that even if this turns out to be pilot suicide, now terrorists around the world know that there are multiple holes in multiple country defenses, and that you are able to board planes with stolen passports.

And they will also know that the engines ping a satellite...

42 posted on 03/20/2014 5:33:56 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: tcrlaf; Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro

I’m not going to give this report any credence until Courtney Love presents a full MS Paint analysis of this image.


43 posted on 03/20/2014 5:34:49 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Spartan302
Why is the Maldives ..... suddenly silenced?

It tipped over.

44 posted on 03/20/2014 5:52:20 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: mazda77

Most people don;t know what GMT is, and a lot don;t even know there are different time zones. Most of those people seem to reside in Washington, DC!


45 posted on 03/20/2014 5:54:39 AM PDT by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Looks like a capsized boat to me!


46 posted on 03/20/2014 5:55:28 AM PDT by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: grobdriver

According to a 777 pilot I heard on TV there are no brakes on the nose wheel.


47 posted on 03/20/2014 6:01:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: gr8eman

Yep. When I was in Tehran, every teletype communications to and from other stations always ended in my call sign “OGIE” followed by the 24 hour time format.

DOTL . . . .OGIE 1634ZULU (Date OF Time Log)


48 posted on 03/20/2014 6:13:59 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Axenolith
Radar and “below the waters surface” don’t go together to well...

LOL - yeah I was wondering about that one too...

49 posted on 03/20/2014 6:16:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: tcrlaf

>> could easily be a floating cargo container <<

Really? Most containers are either 20’ or 40’ long. At least, that was the situation 10 years ago, when I stopped engaging in trans-Pacific commerce. There may be some 52’ containers, but I can’t imagine that any are as long as 70’.


50 posted on 03/20/2014 6:38:25 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: freerepublicchat

>> There isn’t much trade between Australia and East Africa <<

Yeah, but the location may be close to the Great Circle path from the Cape of Good Hope to Perth.

(Anybody know the latitude/longitude coordinates involved?)


51 posted on 03/20/2014 6:42:04 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Haiku Guy

>> All of the supposed timeline problems will eventually be revealed to be the result of misreporting <<

Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more.


52 posted on 03/20/2014 6:45:00 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: chae; Haiku Guy

>> They turn the plane, and then 10 minutes later, they say “good night” <<

That’s an absolutely critical fact or non-fact, to wit:

If the report you cite is correct, then the smoke-in-the-cockpit theory is blown to smithereens.

But so many non-facts about the case have already been reported that we oughta hold off until we get better info as to the “true fact” about the timing of that turn.


53 posted on 03/20/2014 6:51:30 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: tcrlaf

STOP already. This isn’t MH370. It’s too far south. Next they’ll be looking at the south pole.

Eye witnesses saw plane flying very low over the Maldives. They keep talking about some “fishermen”. It was at least several, if not many, people ON LAND that saw a plane, a JUMBO jet flying VERY low over their island. It was so loud that people came running out of their houses to see what was happening.

The plane either crashed or landed near there. Why look anywhere else?

Potential Conspiracy: Plane landed at U.S. Navy base, Diego Garcia.

Why? We didn’t want the 20 high tech engineers and whatever hardware they might have had with them, going to China. The base is large enough to accommodate the passengers and hide the airplane. Heh, it’s more plausible than it being space aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia

I know it’s wiki, but it has a ton of info. Very interesting. Secret, all indigenous people expelled, only military personnel and some Brit & U.S. civilian workers. CIA black site?


54 posted on 03/20/2014 6:59:11 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: tcrlaf

a shipping container of Kenyan birth certificates???


55 posted on 03/20/2014 8:58:08 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Haiku Guy; chae
my theory is that they diverted out of an abundance of caution, thinking they could deal with the problem without declaring an emergency, thus the routine sign-off.

The fly in that ointment is that the course change had been entered into the computer atleast 12 minutes before signing off so that all the pilot had to do was push one button after signing off and the plane then changed course.

56 posted on 03/20/2014 9:09:00 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: gunsequalfreedom

It’s the same image.


57 posted on 03/20/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by Ray76 (/s)
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To: Reeses
The 777 is a plastic/carbon fiber airplane with a little aluminum. It is not magnetic nor good at reflecting much energy back at a radar/sonar source. Resting in chunks on an ocean floor it's practically invisible

You have the 777 confused with the 787 Dreamliner. The 777 is mostly Aluminium.

58 posted on 03/20/2014 11:59:07 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: chae

The fire and cascading system failure theory bothers me. I just don’t think the plane would stay in the air for 7-8 hours with a fire and multiple system failure, and dead pilots, etc,etc, etc. It would crash long before it got to the southern ocean.


59 posted on 03/20/2014 12:09:14 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Uncle Chip
The fly in that ointment is that the course change had been entered into the computer atleast 12 minutes before signing off so that all the pilot had to do was push one button after signing off and the plane then changed course.

Well, suppose, for the sake of argument, the flight crew noticed a problem with the electrical system. Perhaps a small amount of smoke or a glitch in the power supply. So they program the autopilot to take them to the nearest emergency airfield, just in case they need to divert if things get worse, and investigate the problem.

In the middle of this investigation, they have a routine sign-off, because they have not yet determined the nature of the problem or if they have an emergency.

After the routine sign-off, things turn for the worse in a hurry. They execute the pre-programmed turn, but are soon overcome by smoke. Once the pilots are incapacitated, the aircraft continues on its last programmed course until all fuel is consumed and they crash into the middle of the Indian Ocean.

60 posted on 03/20/2014 12:34:07 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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